Ok... I'll pay $25 more a month because I drink. You'll pay $3000 a month more because you're terrified of a shot (and probably $25 a month for the drinking). Get the point?

Yall live in some crap holes too... Like St. Louis, Atlanta, Dallas, New Orleans, Chicago, Washington DC, Baltimore.... Every major city has bad areas of town. None of us live in a crime riddled area of Memphis.

what? There was a mass shooting in base housing yesterday. You have to drive on Bill Morris to get to work, where tons of shootings occur. Your kids drive downtown to do what kids do. You are so seriously brainwashed. Almost comical. Keep digging your hole.

There are plenty of leaders in the medical field and scientific community that are warry of these vaccines however they are being completely silenced and shunned and threatened. Which is usually done when the guys at the top are tyrants.

There are mass shootings all over the country but I don't live in Base housing.... I wanted to move further out because Collierville is over priced.

Well, like I said, the rates are actually going down next year. We will all pay less. As for your second point. This is precisely what reserve is there for.

Fundamentally, it’s a matter of what we are willing to sacrifice some freedoms for. Personally, given the data, COVID vaccines are not the reason. If this were the plague, I’d feel different. But then again, if it were that bad, I believe people would freely choose to protect themselves.

Vaccine Stance
 

Exactly! People freely choose to drink, smoke, eat unhealthy, and not exercise. And the free market prices that in. So people should also be able to choose to get vaccinated as well.

How does an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? Isn’t that the point of a vaccine?

When you force or coerce someone to inject themselves against their will, by definition, that is not freedom. This is true regardless of whether you wore the uniform or not.

Honest question, should the insurance premium be higher for a Type 2 diabetic? Should he/she pay more than me? Why should I pay the same?

An unvaccinated person puts at risk those who cannot be vaccinated, like children and those with health conditions that preclude vaccination. Helpless elderly people whose caretakers decided not to vaccinate them. People who have weak immune systems that the vaccine did not work well for, people whose immunity from the vaccine has waned over time. People who need to go to the hospital or ICU for something else, who have to compete for care, or get substandard care. Those of us who want this Covid mess to be over and done with, not prolonged for years.

I’m not supportive of government mandated vaccines, especially while the paranoia that causes pandemic behavior continues to repeat itself.

[QUOTE=urinmyseat;3299669]I can’t wait to see how sorry you are you didn’t get the vaccine in 15 years when the other half of us have super powers. We will be off flying around and turning into the hulk and what not. While you sit there and cry into your cereal.

Well if you read the info on the vaccine, vaccinated people put folks at a much higher risk. I'll say it again, the vaccine does not protect you from getting it or from passing it on. Even Herr Fauci has said this frequently. It's why you vaccinated folks need to wear a mask too. They call it viral load and viral shedding. It has been repeatedly proven that the vaccinated shed the virus at up to 13 times more than the unvaccinated. Come on folks, this stuff is reported everywhere. A simple google search will show you the studies. Just because CNN or YouTube won't show them isn't an excuse for ignorance.

Inshallah! Why bother to flare? The plane will land safely if the Sky Bully wills it!

How many people cannot be vaccinated? How much risk is there to children under 12? How many convalescent people have caretakers who didn’t vaccinate them? How many people with weak immune systems the vaccine did not work well for them? How many people with weak immune systems whose vaccine has waned over time? How many people did not get care in hospitals due to patients there FROM covid?

We are ignoring those who have tested positive and have antibodies and therefore their immune system has the memory to create them after they have been shed. And let’s not forget that out of the entire 18 months, this has killed 0.2% of the entire population of the country.

I agree with your last statement about being against mandates. But my reasons are because of the answers to my questions above. This is not the thing to sacrifice some of everyone’s liberty to fight something that kills a fraction of one percent of all people in this long amount of time, especially when there are mitigating factors that can be used instead in order to protect the small minority of the people you listed.

So, no one answered my questions from before, apparently because they were too complicated or required a modicum of intelligence wrapped up in simple motivation.
Here is an easy one, Why is "Group" health insurance called group health insurance vs individual health insurance?
Which one would you like? It's a binary choice. Just like what the US Women's Soccer Team faced. By definition, you don't get to cherry pick.
Imagine a company that only offered individual health policies. So, you are uber healthy former military guy, who doesn't smoke, drink, isn't overweight, your whole family eats super healthy, exercises, etc etc. Everyone in your family gets all the vaccinations because well, Science!, at least as you understand it. You pay super low premiums because, actuarily, you are low risk. Then, your son develops heart issues within days of the Covid vaccine. Requiring intensive hospitalization. See, recent study from Canada, 1 out of 1000. Then, your lovely, loving and loved wife develops an autoimmune disease, such as Transverse Myelitis (England) or Guillain Barre (USA). More hospitalization, or maybe she develops a brain tumor not associated with any vaccine, nothing super bad, but a good sized meningioma. (high likely hood of recurrence requiring treatment). Post resection surgery follow up, it is discovered she has a mid cerebral aneurysm. Ah snap, now you and your loved ones are uninsurable. Sorry, too bad, too sad. Suck it up buttercup. It was your freedom to choose and to support the idea of risked base health insurance.

I think a lot of people live in mid town and down town!

Not really sure that anyone could accurately answer those questions. But in the last month in my close circle alone, I can give you four little kids who got sick due to their anti-vax parents spreading it to them. Hopefully they will not have any lasting physical issues from this. One convalescent person whose caretaker refused to vaccinate him or herself and got Covid, gave it to him and killed him. Seems like it's the new way to murder your parents and get away with it. And an at risk person who got vaccinated early, immunity waned, and got sick, no doubt because he lives in a low vax area and was repetitively exposed. Fortunately he didn't get too sick (thank you vaccine).

0.2% of people killed in this country from a new disease, along with all the people suffering from long haul effects, is a large number. Especially since not everyone has gotten Covid, not everyone will, and it's not done with us yet. What is it, the #3 cause of death, behind heart disease and over 100 types of cancer all added together? And that's with all the measures we've taken. The social distancing, masking, vaccinations, staying at home, improving airflow, pouring billions of dollars into care and research. Can you imagine if we just pretended it was like the flu, like some people do, took no precautions, did no research, and pretended as if it didn't exist? How many more millions would be dead or suffering long term effects?

Even the former president, with a full load of antibodies from a serious case of Covid and the additional monoclonal antibody infusions, got himself vaccinated at the first possible opportunity.

[QUOTE=BertMacklinFBI;[url=tel:3299806]3299806[/url]]More like Flaccidly Cry.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...CC33602EBA6210

Good god where do you come up with this nonsense. I swear you people have legit mental illness. I would ask you for a source but we both know that you pulled it from your rear end just like everything else you post here.

Here, I’ll give you a couple.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...nfections.aspx

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

https://connect.uclahealth.org/2021/...e-know-so-far/

Seriously. To add to that, if you don’t get Covid at all (and the vast majority of vaccinated people will not get Covid), then obviously you won’t shed any virus, and will not increase the spread at all. Hard to believe anyone could argue with a straight face that getting vaccinated increases the chances of spreading Covid to others.

We are wasting our time trying to convince em.

You’re right. Anyone so deeply entrenched in the mindset that the vaccine is so much more dangerous than a virus that has already killed millions of people is completely beyond reason. Why bother?

News flash! ! It’s a shot…NOT a vaccine. A vaccine prevents a person from getting infected. Those getting “vaccinated” are still getting infected. Still CAN and ARE get infected and still carry it and still can spread it. It only lowers your chance of dying and severity of illness.

if y’all are vaccinated, then why are the vaccinated still getting covid???

I have a 12% chance of getting infected and a .2% chance of dying from it.

My body, my choice. End of story

Really? News flash.... no vaccines are 100% effective. This is no different. It significantly lowers your chance of getting infected. Guessing you don’t wear seatbelts because there’s not a 100% chance of them saving your life, right?

I need to give up these kind of threads and just start banging my head against the wall. We’re never going to get rid of Covid with this kind of insanity. But maybe we’ll upgrade the gene pool.

And here you are in post #2,564,78$6 still arguing. Maybe the next one will convince them?

Here's another one to add to the argument in favor, this time from the Atlantic, explaining that in order to spread the infection one must be infected, and that the vaccinated are much less likely to get infected, but if they do there is often much less virus, and it replicates for a much shorter time.

Vaccines aren't like shields that protect the Enterprise from Klingons, but rather a good security force that can fight the Klingons once they've already beamed aboard.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...tm_source=feed

The Atlantic...lol

Let's hope the .2% is what you get. Free seniority.

Ok. Which news sources are acceptable going forward? I don't want to post anything that you're going to dismiss out of hand.

Billions of people vaccinated or have received first dose. The more time goes on the more you pu$$ise who are afraid of a shot will look like idiots as time goes on.

They prefer Facebook, Epoch Times, anecdotal stories, etc. Don’t bring up anything involving science, that’s the Devil’s work.

Seriously though, it’s simply a matter of time before it’s a mandatory requirement to travel/operate internationally. That’s fine with me, they can stay on the 75 flying to GRR and FAR. I’ll enjoy the bump in seniority on the WB fleets.

The Atlantic
 

Maybe next time you could post an article from a less partisan site, like Hillary's hacked emails?

Here is one from the CDC. We're all supposed to believe everything they say, so take a minute and get off the DNC websites.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...-covid-19.html

How about this. Let me and millions of others choose for ourselves, as our constitution affords us protections of our God-given rights. If I die, you win. If the billions who are vaccinated die, God have mercy!

I'm out! You wont change my mind, and unfortunately I won't change yours. One last question to ponder. How many booster shots are you willing to take to be "saved"?

Hey before you leave are you going to address my post refuting all your bogus claims or will you ignore it like you do every other piece of evidence that proves you wrong?

I don’t have any problem with that. If you choose not to participate with the requirements of certain employers, travel requirements, and so on that’s your decision. But it goes both ways - you can’t expect the rest of society to conform to your decision to not get a simple vaccination. You can enjoy your career working for a small charter company flying domestic trips and never travel internationally.

Finally, what you’re apparently unable to understand about the CDC link is that the vaccinated person is far less likely to be infected in the first place, relative to an unvaccinated person. However, IF there is a breakthrough case to a vaccinated person, they can also spread COVID.

New publications have found that Covid Survivors are 600% more likely to develop severe erectile dysfunction, a decrease in penile and testicular size, and testicular pain both long term and short term. The summary was published in National Geographic and was based on studies conducted in South Florida at the University of Miami Hospital’s Urology Clinic as well as the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio and University of Rome Tor Vergata in Italy. This makes sense given that Covid greatly impacts the vascular system and the body’s ability to deliver oxygen in the blood throughout the body. Poor circulation and less oxygen means ED becomes an big (or small I suppose) issue.

So let’s have some empathy towards those that may be ranting and raving endlessly on the crew bus to anyone within earshot about how they survived Covid and therefore masks and vaccines are pointless. You wouldn’t be in a great mood either if you were having severe and long term issues with ED. There are no winners in this scenario so let’s have some empathy and kindly let them mouth their grievances. You’d be upset too if you truly believed Joe Biden and Anthony Fauci stole your boner.

If you care to read the article it was published September 22, 2021 in National Geographic. As if more reasons to elect to vaccinate yourself were required, this one should help some of us go from undecided to a “hard” yes in favor of vaccination.

Fr8Master, that is the best response I’ve ever read. That should go viral, we are laughing so hard it hurts. Thank you for that. I can make no further argument. 👍

So it's funny to you that people who were deemed essential and spent all of 2020 working during the pandemic with nothing more than a mask for protection may suffer life long debilitating effects from catching the disease? You're awesome.

Obviously that is not what he found funny, but you of course know that. My post was a nudge to help highlight what is another affect of a Covid infection that some may suffer. Maybe some may find protecting themselves from these symptoms more important than being contrarian.

Just to be clear, I don’t celebrate death or any adverse impact anyone has from Covid or anything else for that matter. I was trying to put a little humor behind a serious article because life is more enjoyable if you laugh.

You got that right. I don’t find anything funny about the serious side effects inflicted by Covid. But the manner in which you presented it was hilarious.

OMFG

Get the chemical-Bill Gates tracking device-vaccine-treatment-whatchamcallit or do not

Whothefuc* cares

Jebus

Can we please get back to the lie flat seats. The trip seven types are not going to make half a mil forever.

When will we finally get it. Our personal stance on vaccination doesn’t mean sheet. If its legislated then you will get it or wont have a job. If countries start requiring it for entry the same applies. That simple.

You can post all the deep state articles and fake scientific bs from the inter-web, but it wont matter. Get it or get a different job. Stand on your morals all you want. That doesn’t guarantee you a job.

Why are we even wasting our time on this. Its legal and the courts have ruled as such since the early 1900’s.

Good grief