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Globemaster2827 09-10-2021 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Meat Fighter (Post 3293160)
If that were the case, which it's not, then highest vaccination rate per capita countries in the world wouldn't have some of the highest case and transmission rates.

It's been playing out real-time in Israel, Iceland, Gibraltar etc.

In a sane world we would recognize the utility of proven therapeutics and protocols. But since this isn't about medicine, health, or science these mitigation are censored and outlawed to push a shot that acts as a short term therapeutic and doesn't inoculate anyone, yet people have been conditioned to think this is the exit metric for this insanity. Pro-tip.... the only exit metric is non compliance.

From two weeks to flatten the curve to unknown number of shots in order to feed your family from a virus that for healthy people under 70 are at risk on oar with seasonal influenza..... and people still think this about public health.

Wake the hell up. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d75be9b517.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d6cbf292ba.jpg

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It's gonna be awesome watching the internet doctors and lawyers melt down over the next few months...

FXLAX 09-10-2021 08:02 AM

Vaccine Stance
 

Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3292613)
So there's a sizeable percentage of us that believe it's in our best interests to have everyone vaccinated and don't want to waste resources fighting it.

There is a third category. Those who may believe in the benefits of the vaccine yet are not in favor of forcing onto people’s bodies against their conscience.


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3293005)
For whatever reason...the USPS is exempt from Bidens planned mandate...so I would assume no airline carrying USPS materials could be held to it just for that reason.

I believe the reason is their union lobbying Biden against it. Same with the teachers union on the cdc mask mandate for school kids. And with FedEx lobbying obama to exempt us from 117. Etc. It doesn’t make sense if you ignore politics, influence, money, power.

Shaman 09-10-2021 09:57 AM

No one should be stupid enough to take personal health nor financial advice from pilots despite the fact that they happily and confidently share it.

Why argue with these dudes? They believe they can see and understand things no one else can.

Globemaster2827 09-10-2021 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Shaman (Post 3293268)
No one should be stupid enough to take personal health nor financial advice from pilots despite the fact that they happily and confidently share it.

Why argue with these dudes? They believe they can see and understand things no one else can.

Ultimately they're gonna get steam rolled on the issue despite all their newly acquired legal and medical acumen...

wrxpilot 09-10-2021 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Meat Fighter (Post 3293160)
If that were the case, which it's not, then highest vaccination rate per capita countries in the world wouldn't have some of the highest case and transmission rates.

It's been playing out real-time in Israel, Iceland, Gibraltar etc.

In a sane world we would recognize the utility of proven therapeutics and protocols. But since this isn't about medicine, health, or science these mitigation are censored and outlawed to push a shot that acts as a short term therapeutic and doesn't inoculate anyone, yet people have been conditioned to think this is the exit metric for this insanity. Pro-tip.... the only exit metric is non compliance.

From two weeks to flatten the curve to unknown number of shots in order to feed your family from a virus that for healthy people under 70 are at risk on oar with seasonal influenza..... and people still think this about public health.

Wake the hell up. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d75be9b517.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d6cbf292ba.jpg

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Whatever you’ve posted is unreadable.

Look, I get it. It’s difficult for some of you guys to understand probability and statistics. I’ll make this a little simpler for you:

https://www.9news.com/mobile/article...7-464cdd22c6fa


On the positive side of things, this is what it’s like for countries with high vaccination rates:

https://www.theguardian.com/weather/...op-80-per-cent

Meat Fighter 09-10-2021 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 3293502)
Whatever you’ve posted is unreadable.



Look, I get it. It’s difficult for some of you guys to understand probability and statistics. I’ll make this a little simpler for you:



https://www.9news.com/mobile/article...7-464cdd22c6fa





On the positive side of things, this is what it’s like for countries with high vaccination rates:



https://www.theguardian.com/weather/...op-80-per-cent

These are the survival rates from the CDC. These include all deaths "with" COVID. Additionally, the CDC noted that 94% of deaths had on ever age 2.8 serious comorbities or greater.

Bottom line... If you don't have any comorbities your survival rate is exponentially better than this chart.

Gee, I wonder why our federal government/corporate media never tried to inform people about their stratified risk?

Our rendition of 1984 ends when everyone wakes up and says no mas. But if we keep making an idol out of a respiratory virus and making false claims that vaccinating everyone is our exit metric, then this will continue in perpetuity. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...41e5c20b23.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f6f8b8b946.jpg

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wrxpilot 09-10-2021 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Meat Fighter (Post 3293506)
These are the survival rates from the CDC. These include all deaths "with" COVID. Additionally, the CDC noted that 94% of deaths had on ever age 2.8 serious comorbities or greater.

Bottom line... If you don't have any comorbities your survival rate is exponentially better than this chart.

Gee, I wonder why our federal government/corporate media never tried to inform people about their stratified risk?

Our rendition of 1984 ends when everyone wakes up and says no mas. But if we keep making an idol out of a respiratory virus and making false claims that vaccinating everyone is our exit metric, then this will continue in perpetuity. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...41e5c20b23.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f6f8b8b946.jpg

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Why do you keep mentioning Israel? They have lower vaccination rates than many European countries, and their recent increase of infections is from - big surprise! - unvaccinated people.

https://fortune.com/2021/09/07/israe...d-coming-next/

Meat Fighter 09-10-2021 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 3293523)
Why do you keep mentioning Israel? They have lower vaccination rates than many European countries, and their recent increase of infections is from - big surprise! - unvaccinated people.



https://fortune.com/2021/09/07/israe...d-coming-next/

I keep mentioning Israel to demonstrate the hysteria of the cult of Covid.

First mass vaxed nation now up to 80%, they've subsequently revised unvaccinated for anyone greater than 5 months from previous second dose, yet they now have one of the highest case rates in the entire world. Their hospitalizations are close to 70% vaccinated and on and on and on.

But again, none of this really matters because this is an ideological crusade, not a debate about medicine, health, or science.

If you look at the data while understanding they are now pushing a 4th booster any rational person would be shocked at the cult like behavior.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/israel

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Shaman 09-10-2021 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Meat Fighter (Post 3293533)

First mass vaxed nation now up to 80%, they've subsequently revised unvaccinated for anyone greater than 5 months from previous second dose,

Hate to inform you chief but the link you referenced shows an Israeli vaccination rate of 68.5% not 80%.(and that's at least one shot)

You want another shot at this?

Meat Fighter 09-10-2021 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Shaman (Post 3293536)
Hate to inform you chief but the link you referenced shows an Israeli vaccination rate of 68.5% not 80%.(and that's at least one shot)



You want another shot at this?

80% of population allowed to get vaxxed. Not sure if you noticed, but all those people who got two jabs more than five months ago are now denoted as unvaccinated.

Like I've said, none of this matters anyways. You'll focus on micro data which doesn't change the overall point, which is......wait for it...... a vaccine that doesn't inoculate, is limited in its period of reducing severity, and doesn't stop transmission doesn't work as an exit strategy HENCE why mandating people to get vaxxed tickles your ideological fancy but does nothing to exit this orwellian fantasy.

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busdriver12 09-10-2021 08:09 PM

I can't believe anyone is actually arguing against vaccinations anymore. Hospital ICU's filled with unvaccinated people, people on ventilators, hospital beds filled up by the unvaccinated. I'm not into mandating vaccines, but how can any human being on this planet Earth actually argue that they are not helpful in fighting Covid-19? Vaccines have saved millions of lives. Good grief!

Temocil27 09-11-2021 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3293572)
I can't believe anyone is actually arguing against vaccinations anymore. Hospital ICU's filled with unvaccinated people, people on ventilators, hospital beds filled up by the unvaccinated. I'm not into mandating vaccines, but how can any human being on this planet Earth actually argue that they are not helpful in fighting Covid-19? Vaccines have saved millions of lives. Good grief!

The last anti-vaccine person I flew with couldn’t even say “mRNA” correctly, but adamantly refused to consider the shot because it’s gene therapy. Yes, yes it is. I’m excited to see how these guys change their tunes if the rubber hits the road.

busdriver12 09-11-2021 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 3293621)
The last anti-vaccine person I flew with couldn’t even say “mRNA” correctly, but adamantly refused to consider the shot because it’s gene therapy. Yes, yes it is. I’m excited to see how these guys change their tunes if the rubber hits the road.

I’d take a bet that these same people, had future access to gene therapy to cure their cancer, they’d jump on it. The hucksters in the media will be quite silent on that.

MEMA300 09-11-2021 09:10 AM

This guy might know how to pronounce it. Hell he helped to design it. https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-q...173600060.html

magic rat 09-11-2021 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3293572)
I can't believe anyone is actually arguing against vaccinations anymore. Hospital ICU's filled with unvaccinated people, people on ventilators, hospital beds filled up by the unvaccinated. I'm not into mandating vaccines, but how can any human being on this planet Earth actually argue that they are not helpful in fighting Covid-19? Vaccines have saved millions of lives. Good grief!

You’re wrong. Just plain wrong. Stop watching CNN and do some research on your own.

My wife’s hospitals beds are filled with VACCINATED people WITH covid with compromised immune systems from the “vaccine”. Watch what happens this flu season.

AND, the hospitals are overflowing because Medical staff are walking out because they don’t want to get vaccinated. They don’t have the staff to handle the number of beds.

busdriver12 09-11-2021 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by magic rat (Post 3293767)
You’re wrong. Just plain wrong. Stop watching CNN and do some research on your own.

My wife’s hospitals beds are filled with VACCINATED people WITH covid with compromised immune systems from the “vaccine”. Watch what happens this flu season.

AND, the hospitals are overflowing because Medical staff are walking out because they don’t want to get vaccinated. They don’t have the staff to handle the number of beds.

Looks like I got it all wrong, then. So the people sick and dying of Covid are the vaccinated, because the vaccinations crushed their immune system. Who woulda thought the last administration would have promoted and funded the development of killer vaccines. That’s just evil. And the hospitals all over the country and the press are in total coordination lying about it. 😳

MEMFO4Ever 09-11-2021 12:37 PM

Downloaded the PDF and legit lot numbers months ago and feel awesome. Stuff really works. :D

HIFLYR 09-11-2021 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3293744)
I’d take a bet that these same people, had future access to gene therapy to cure their cancer, they’d jump on it. The hucksters in the media will be quite silent on that.

Well in all fairness almost all cancers are a death sentence, COVID not so much!

busdriver12 09-11-2021 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 3293888)
Well in all fairness almost all cancers are a death sentence, COVID not so much!

Depends on the cancer. Most people I know have been fortunate enough to survive it. Thankful for those who are doing well and hanging on or getting past it. Modern medicine rocks.

TransWorld 09-11-2021 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 3293888)
Well in all fairness almost all cancers are a death sentence, COVID not so much!

A majority of cancers today are NOT a death sentence. Treatments have made marvelous progress.

HIFLYR 09-11-2021 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3293917)
A majority of cancers today are NOT a death sentence. Treatments have made marvelous progress.

Ok let me rephrase if faced with a probably terminal cancer, then yes I would probably take a new gene therapy drug. When facing a disease I have a 98 to 99 percent chance of surviving, maybe not!

MEMA300 09-11-2021 06:32 PM

Wonder why so many ppl in medical field still remain unvaxxed?

Globemaster2827 09-11-2021 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3293842)
Looks like I got it all wrong, then. So the people sick and dying of Covid are the vaccinated, because the vaccinations crushed their immune system. Who woulda thought the last administration would have promoted and funded the development of killer vaccines. That’s just evil. And the hospitals all over the country and the press are in total coordination lying about it. 😳

Everyone is lying... Except for Alex Jones. That man is quite the truth teller.

At this point even Donald Trump is telling the truth about the vaccine sandwiched in between election rants!

Globemaster2827 09-11-2021 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3293917)
A majority of cancers today are NOT a death sentence. Treatments have made marvelous progress.

I've read online that natural immunity from cancer is best. Just let it do its thing so that once you beat it your body is indestructible. I read an Angolan study that claimed you can get hit by a bus and you'll be ok once you just let your natural immune system beat cancer by itself. Even if the bus does hit you I read a study from Bolivia that says that you can just take this drug that Sea World gives to Shamu to eliminate water tank parasites and it'll fix your broken spine.

busdriver12 09-11-2021 07:06 PM

Globemaster, you’re on a roll!

Noworkallplay 09-11-2021 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3293942)
I've read online that natural immunity from cancer is best. Just let it do its thing so that once you beat it your body is indestructible. I read an Angolan study that claimed you can get hit by a bus and you'll be ok once you just let your natural immune system beat cancer by itself. Even if the bus does hit you I read a study from Bolivia that says that you can just take this drug that Sea World gives to Shamu to eliminate water tank parasites and it'll fix your broken spine.


If it was posted online it must be true!!!! Insert laughing emoji followed by eye roll emoji…..

I never knew we had so many bar certificated attorneys and med school grads as pilots. Ask them what their investment portfolio advice is next.

TransWorld 09-11-2021 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 3293939)
Wonder why so many ppl in medical field still remain unvaxxed?

And I believe I read here a higher percentage of PhDs remain unvaxxed than those with a bachelors or masters degree.

Globemaster2827 09-12-2021 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3293974)
And I believe I read here a higher percentage of PhDs remain unvaxxed than those with a bachelors or masters degree.

If you read it on here then it must be true. Do you want a link to the Shamu cancer study from Bolivia?

hoya saxa 09-12-2021 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3293974)
And I believe I read here a higher percentage of PhDs remain unvaxxed than those with a bachelors or masters degree.


Well, if you “believe” you read that somewhere then it’s clearly a fact! Remind me to seek you guys out next time I’ve gotta sell a bridge.


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thesandbox 09-12-2021 08:42 AM

The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/0726...cine-hesitancy

busdriver12 09-12-2021 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by thesandbox (Post 3294064)
The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/0726...cine-hesitancy

Strangely, it was a U shaped curve, with the least vaccine hesitant group being those with masters degrees. Huh, wonder how that happens? Makes you wonder that since it was an online survey, with no verification of accuracy required, that the unusually large number of PhD’s in this survey might have partially consisted of people who lied about their education level.

BlueMoon 09-12-2021 10:32 AM

PhD isn’t an MD. I don’t care what a PhD in geography or history has to say about medical matters.

dckozak 09-12-2021 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 3294081)
PhD isn’t an MD. I don’t care what a PhD in geography or history has to say about medical matters.

Now an ATP, that's a different matter. Add a jet type rating and you are master of the universe, have knowledge and insights that mere medical doctors, scientists or lawyers could only wish they had. Our opinions are beyond reproach and our spouses (if we still have one) marvel at our ability and brains.

BlueMoon 09-12-2021 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by dckozak (Post 3294090)
Now an ATP, that's a different matter. Add a jet type rating and you are master of the universe, have knowledge and insights that mere medical doctors, scientists or lawyers could only wish they had. Our opinions are beyond reproach and our spouses (if we still have one) marvel at our ability and brains.

HAHA, you hit the nail in the head.

globalflair 09-12-2021 01:19 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/members-con...andate-1627859

I don’t care one way or the other but I found this to be an interesting article in Newsweek published yesterday.
Maybe I shoulda held out a bit longer…

Merle Haggard 09-13-2021 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 3293939)
Wonder why so many ppl in medical field still remain unvaxxed?

88% of nurses, 96% of doctors are vaccinated. I guess they're all dumb.

WearyEyed 09-13-2021 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 3294114)
HAHA, you hit the nail in the head.

hahahaha, nail in the head, not on the head. Change one word and the meaning totally changes. I love your new phrase.

HPIC 09-13-2021 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3294393)
88% of nurses, 96% of doctors are vaccinated. I guess they're all dumb.

92% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

BlueMoon 09-13-2021 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by WearyEyed (Post 3294436)
hahahaha, nail in the head, not on the head. Change one word and the meaning totally changes. I love your new phrase.

D’oh. That’s what I get for not proofreading!

Merle Haggard 09-13-2021 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3294437)
92% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Forbes magazine story on Houston Methodist Hospital and vaccination: "The rate of vaccination is pretty much inverse of the education level of staff".

Donald Trump victory speech: "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated."

It's all coming together.


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