2023 Hiring/Basic Indoc
12-27-2022, 05:17 PM
#62
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Joined APC: Aug 2022
Posts: 153
Originally Posted by wrxpilot
Why? What could possibly go wrong going to United as we are about to enter a recession? It’s not like there aren’t multiple data points showing how that turns out!
But yeah, leaving at 50% on the seniority list at FedEx is totally the right move in that situation.
But yeah, leaving at 50% on the seniority list at FedEx is totally the right move in that situation.
12-27-2022, 05:32 PM
#63
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 1,901
Originally Posted by schloppy1
The six year guy isn’t going anywhere. But I also live a twenty minute drive from the United TC. After accruing 15k in hotel isolation funds, I feel like I’ve had a psychological operation run me. I decided to start making noise on these boards and may come back to JF. My darts and insites have been met with quiet responses. It’s time to make some noise. I’m here for the duration, but don’t think I didn’t run the numbers.
I also live close to the United TC, and even turned down United to come here almost 5 years ago. I don’t even know if they’d hire me again, but I’d sure have to be desperate to leave my widebody CA seat to start over again somewhere else. I won’t say I’d never do that, but things would have to certainly be dire for me to do so. But IF FedEx wanted to become the next Atlas or something, then yes absolutely I would leave.
12-27-2022, 05:50 PM
#64
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: alpa member
Posts: 100
This place isn’t near the company I joined over 22 years ago. I’d say if you have been here 5 years or more….hang on it will get better. Things are not as bad as peeps say. Though times make strong people. I think we have an adjustment period just like 2002, 2007,2012,2019… before the Wuhan virus etc…
I remember my tax dollars were bailing out the majors a couple years ago. Do they have to pay that back?😡
I remember my tax dollars were bailing out the majors a couple years ago. Do they have to pay that back?😡
12-27-2022, 07:07 PM
#65
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,154
Lol I love APC.
”we’re not hiring anymore….FURLOUGHS ARE COMING!!!!”
fwiw, I have often danced with the idea of going to a different carrier. I keep coming back to the realization that making a jump just because of the TA that is (or isn’t) in place today would be absolutely crazy.. Don’t forget that just a year ago we were the place to be. And in XX number of months it will be again. Then it won’t. Then it will. Like in the stock market, those chasing todays news have already missed the boat.
For those on the fence, I wouldn’t make any decision based on the emotionality people show here, or for what the current TAs say. I’d make the decision based on what works for my life and my belief in the company, it’s management, it’s people and it’s business plan (and THAT is a whole different convo at this point……)
”we’re not hiring anymore….FURLOUGHS ARE COMING!!!!”
fwiw, I have often danced with the idea of going to a different carrier. I keep coming back to the realization that making a jump just because of the TA that is (or isn’t) in place today would be absolutely crazy.. Don’t forget that just a year ago we were the place to be. And in XX number of months it will be again. Then it won’t. Then it will. Like in the stock market, those chasing todays news have already missed the boat.
For those on the fence, I wouldn’t make any decision based on the emotionality people show here, or for what the current TAs say. I’d make the decision based on what works for my life and my belief in the company, it’s management, it’s people and it’s business plan (and THAT is a whole different convo at this point……)
12-27-2022, 10:28 PM
#66
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,093
Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Lol I love APC.
”we’re not hiring anymore….FURLOUGHS ARE COMING!!!!”
fwiw, I have often danced with the idea of going to a different carrier. I keep coming back to the realization that making a jump just because of the TA that is (or isn’t) in place today would be absolutely crazy.. Don’t forget that just a year ago we were the place to be. And in XX number of months it will be again. Then it won’t. Then it will. Like in the stock market, those chasing todays news have already missed the boat.
For those on the fence, I wouldn’t make any decision based on the emotionality people show here, or for what the current TAs say. I’d make the decision based on what works for my life and my belief in the company, it’s management, it’s people and it’s business plan (and THAT is a whole different convo at this point……)
”we’re not hiring anymore….FURLOUGHS ARE COMING!!!!”
fwiw, I have often danced with the idea of going to a different carrier. I keep coming back to the realization that making a jump just because of the TA that is (or isn’t) in place today would be absolutely crazy.. Don’t forget that just a year ago we were the place to be. And in XX number of months it will be again. Then it won’t. Then it will. Like in the stock market, those chasing todays news have already missed the boat.
For those on the fence, I wouldn’t make any decision based on the emotionality people show here, or for what the current TAs say. I’d make the decision based on what works for my life and my belief in the company, it’s management, it’s people and it’s business plan (and THAT is a whole different convo at this point……)
12-28-2022, 09:49 AM
#67
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by C2078
This is not true. UPS has not said anything officially about parking planes. They have said decisions will need to be made, but nothing concrete regarding parking any Pratt planes.
The DC-10 had a similar issue in the mid 2000’s. Operators faced dropping a crap load of $$$ to bring them up to date or park them. A third party company came up with a much cheaper fix and they kept operating for years. I heard rumors of something similar going on right now, a company working on a cheaper solution. UPS and Fedex do not want to get rid of the MD, it’s just a matter of $$$.
We do have 28 76s coming between ‘23 and ‘25, whether they will be for growth or replacement remains to be determined. One thing is for certain. None of our other fleets require replacement anytime soon. We just upgraded almost 200 planes giving them significant more life.
The DC-10 had a similar issue in the mid 2000’s. Operators faced dropping a crap load of $$$ to bring them up to date or park them. A third party company came up with a much cheaper fix and they kept operating for years. I heard rumors of something similar going on right now, a company working on a cheaper solution. UPS and Fedex do not want to get rid of the MD, it’s just a matter of $$$.
We do have 28 76s coming between ‘23 and ‘25, whether they will be for growth or replacement remains to be determined. One thing is for certain. None of our other fleets require replacement anytime soon. We just upgraded almost 200 planes giving them significant more life.
12-28-2022, 10:29 AM
#68
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 919
Originally Posted by Spearfish
At $39 million PER P&W plane to fix, the MD is on its way out. The airframe is worth maybe $5m. This is an easy decision. MD SDF dispalacement coming in Jan or Feb. And this will just be the first one of many. IMO.
They already paid for 5, so it’s not an unwillingness. I’d bet it will be market rather than cost driven.
12-28-2022, 11:25 AM
#69
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Originally Posted by Spearfish
At $39 million PER P&W plane to fix, the MD is on its way out. The airframe is worth maybe $5m. This is an easy decision. MD SDF dispalacement coming in Jan or Feb. And this will just be the first one of many. IMO.
12-28-2022, 11:55 AM
#70
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 923
Originally Posted by Spearfish
At $39 million PER P&W plane to fix, the MD is on its way out. The airframe is worth maybe $5m. This is an easy decision. MD SDF dispalacement coming in Jan or Feb. And this will just be the first one of many. IMO.
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