It's already started and it's just the beginning. This is going to be uncharted territory for the company in this highly competitive pilot market whenever hiring resumes, as it is now with folks leaving. We may not be hiring right now, but our retirements are still going to happen, and once we sign a deal we all know there's going to be a large exit from the 60+ and 25YOS crowd. The pool that's going to be joining majors the next couple years is watching, and they're watching closely. People notice when the prettiest girl in class last week isn't looking so hot the next. Austin is a perfect example of why we need the strongest FO's in the industry. Hopefully the company will realize that sooner rather than later for all of our sakes.

 

Many work rules also need fixing.

Be the change you want to see.

Ive been enjoying flying BLG all along.

Ideally, we should be able to afford 68 hours in the current scenario. I know there can be personal circumstances that pop up but during normal ops, if done correctly, it shouldn’t be an issue.

 

Agreed. I did want to through something out to the crowd however. What if there isn't an exodus from that 60+ crowd? Just playing devil's advocate. Top of the payscale, 5 weeks of vacation, while still socking money away the last 3-5 years. Hell you could argue they could be full time pilots working part time.

 

If anyone is interested in the rest of the new delta contract, and I hope everyone here is, here is a link to their website which includes their clean and marked up version of the contract, executive summery, grievance resolution, TA reference guide, TA section + global scope, road show videos, podcasts, negotiator’s notepads, pro/con position papers, FAQs, etc.
https://contract2019.org

 

I had a Crashpad mate say “you’re lucky you didn’t sit sideways for 4 years”.

Well for one, there isn’t anyplace to sit sideways here. So luck doesn’t have anything to do with it.

I asked if he’d like to trade my 9 years aa a regional FO before finally getting to upgrade due to age 65 and the economy.

Apparrntly he wouldn’t.

everyone paid their dues in some way.

 

Thank you. I would gladly go back to 2004 and sit sideways instead of flying the crappy turboprop I was flying then. It took me over 20 years to get to here. I would absolutely exchange some sideways time in my late 20's to be a senior Captain here with 20 years vested into my retirement.

 

7000 hrs of CRJ SIC here. This is not an issue of who has had it harder. We all have a story. This industry enjoyed two decades of free labor. Be it bankruptcy, 4A2b, or hiring regional pilots for 19.00/hr with payroll deduct for their uniforms. We’re just now starting to catch up to where the industry was in 2000. America’s airlines created this labor shortage by exploiting workers and can now pay up or watch their product continue to deteriorate. Eventually that’ll have an effect on their precious stock price. The moral of this story is: The old timer is not the adversary, the civilian guy isn’t our adversary, the mil guy isn’t our adversary, the 25 year old new hire isn’t our adversary. Our adversary is a corporation that made billions off our backs and is now crying poor and hinting at a reduction in force. This is all a very serious game and FedEx is very good at playing it. So keep your eye on the ball and remember who we’re competing against. It isn’t our fellow pilots.

 

Can we have a round of applause 👏 standing ovation. Very well said!!!

 

.....FUPM.....

 

This is gold. Thank you!