System Bid has been posted
04-22-2023 | 09:27 AM
#161
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Those who are worried about clinging to things they can't really hold seniority-wise are missing the point that the company would do a whole lot less of all of this crap under a bump and flush system. It's far more expensive.
Careful what you ask for. If 10 years of MEM RA is what you're looking for, you might just get it. If and when things turn around, there will be people coming in on top of you for a very long time.
Careful what you ask for. If 10 years of MEM RA is what you're looking for, you might just get it. If and when things turn around, there will be people coming in on top of you for a very long time.
I bid it as one of the last 10 on the 757 list a few bids ago and now this bid happened so I won't be on the very bottom. It looks to me like I'll probably be able to hold lines starting next month on Secondary but most months I'd like to be on reserve. I moved to MEM so that I could bid things at 100%, sit reserve, and not work. RA is fine with me. All of us in MEM need yall to take up all that night flying so we don't have to do it.
04-22-2023 | 07:43 PM
#162
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What you are describing is on every bid every seat and domicile is rerun. This would cause chaos and not 1 airline does it in this manner. Your seniority allows you to hold whatever you can hold on the vacancy bid. If there is no vacancies, then you have nothing to use your seniority for. If there are vacancies and you choose to not exercise your seniority, you can’t then complain when the following bid has no vacancies. You chose that.
04-22-2023 | 07:54 PM
#163
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So what do you have to say to the 700+ pilots on property that haven’t had a different opportunity to bid other than indoc prior to this bid? We should just be happy to be here?
04-23-2023 | 04:40 AM
#164
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From: 777FO
I've been at FedEx just over a year on the 75. I tried bidding off the 75 on this previous bid but was denied. I am not to upset because I would rather be 50% on the 75 vs 100% on the 76/77, especially if we aren't hiring. My biggest question is if we don't hire for a year or longer during this restructuring could I be stuck on the 75 for 4-5 years? 1 year already+ 1-2 years for bid allowing me to actually move+ 1-2 years to go to training. Are all the upcoming bids going to be a crap shoot like this one with the closures and not hiring? I bid the 75 so I wouldn't have a seat lock...
04-23-2023 | 06:00 AM
#165
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04-23-2023 | 10:05 AM
#166
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From: 767 CA
We have had dual qualification 757-767. But our schedules were either 767 trips or 757 trips, not mixed like passengers (I assume). It was too hard to keep dual qual.
04-23-2023 | 10:29 AM
#167
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First, there are less than 650 pilots added that weren't able to bid on the last system bid. There are also vacancies in the 77FM as well as the 75FM seat that you can bid on if you choose.
Second, if you were hired in a WB since the last bid, you are seat locked, unless you could hold a captain seat. Are you saying that you should be able to hold a captain seat in less than 18 months?
So, you are at an airline that hiring has stopped and you are in the bottom 10% of the seniority list. What do you think should happen? What would be happening if you were in the same situation at Delta, United, American?
04-23-2023 | 11:12 AM
#168
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There is no dual qualification required for 757/767 although your fleets have a different flightdeck whereas UPS they are both the same.
04-23-2023 | 11:23 AM
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First, there are less than 650 pilots added that weren't able to bid on the last system bid. There are also vacancies in the 77FM as well as the 75FM seat that you can bid on if you choose.
Second, if you were hired in a WB since the last bid, you are seat locked, unless you could hold a captain seat. Are you saying that you should be able to hold a captain seat in less than 18 months?
So, you are at an airline that hiring has stopped and you are in the bottom 10% of the seniority list. What do you think should happen? What would be happening if you were in the same situation at Delta, United, American?
Second, if you were hired in a WB since the last bid, you are seat locked, unless you could hold a captain seat. Are you saying that you should be able to hold a captain seat in less than 18 months?
So, you are at an airline that hiring has stopped and you are in the bottom 10% of the seniority list. What do you think should happen? What would be happening if you were in the same situation at Delta, United, American?
There may not be an exodus from the top, but I think the one from the bottom is starting to happen. With the big changes coming to our system form, our porous scope, shrinking airline, and enhanced efficiencies which reduce QOL and commutability the reasons to be here are rapidly diminishing.
I wasn't asking for an 18 mo upgrade, but I'd certainly like the option to upgrade sooner than the 10+ yrs it currently looks to be.
04-23-2023 | 11:52 AM
#170
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I have friends at Legacy airlines that are still in initial training and have better seat seniority than I will have at the conclusion of this bid. Been here 2 yrs so far. And no, I couldn't bid on this current bid, so I'm stuck in the seat I was assigned in BI. I'll be going backwards in seniority for the foreseeable future.
There may not be an exodus from the top, but I think the one from the bottom is starting to happen. With the big changes coming to our system form, our porous scope, shrinking airline, and enhanced efficiencies which reduce QOL and commutability the reasons to be here are rapidly diminishing.
I wasn't asking for an 18 mo upgrade, but I'd certainly like the option to upgrade sooner than the 10+ yrs it currently looks to be.
There may not be an exodus from the top, but I think the one from the bottom is starting to happen. With the big changes coming to our system form, our porous scope, shrinking airline, and enhanced efficiencies which reduce QOL and commutability the reasons to be here are rapidly diminishing.
I wasn't asking for an 18 mo upgrade, but I'd certainly like the option to upgrade sooner than the 10+ yrs it currently looks to be.
Did you bid 75C on the practice?
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