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Old 04-06-2024 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by plzdontfireme
Don't worry, some 25 year captain in AOC just told me:

uPs iS gOnNa bE oPeRaTiNg At A lOsS.


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Since Purple and Brown have entirely different corporate and operational structures, how can people not comprehend that both things can be simultaneously true -- that USPS wasn't worth the business for Purple's current assessment of cost vs yield and it is worth it for Brown?
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Old 04-06-2024 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cocoloco
The big question is, how overstaffed is FDX now with this lost?
I have it on good authority from PD that we will be in 4.a.2.c. in February 2024.
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Old 04-06-2024 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
Since Purple and Brown have entirely different corporate and operational structures, how can people not comprehend that both things can be simultaneously true -- that USPS wasn't worth the business for Purple's current assessment of cost vs yield and it is worth it for Brown?
Apparently Brown has had some.of their 300s sitting and this contract will get them going again and making money.

Not big flying but boost to day domestic routes for em from what I hear.
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Old 04-06-2024 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
Apparently Brown has had some.of their 300s sitting and this contract will get them going again and making money.

Not big flying but boost to day domestic routes for em from what I hear.
you don't say...
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Old 04-07-2024 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
Since Purple and Brown have entirely different corporate and operational structures, how can people not comprehend that both things can be simultaneously true -- that USPS wasn't worth the business for Purple's current assessment of cost vs yield and it is worth it for Brown?
THIS........
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Old 04-07-2024 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
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FO does every walk around. Even though mechanics do it as well at the same time. I have no idea how to program FMC for preflight “oh you don’t need to know any of the preflight aspects on the flight deck” is what some captains have told me
This varies from airline to airline. Some have the captain walk around (UPS). I don't think any airline trusts the mechanics to do this, I hope not anyway!

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Let’s check every warning system on the airplane every flight. Nothing like a config warning being checked 21 times per week. Love hearing all the GPWS noises during preflight. Bus Tie checks on 757 as an example.
That's an FCOM thing, most all the carriers just follow the FCOM these days, for better or worse.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Water diapers. Need I say more. “That’s how it was when I was an FE back in 1992”
Cold and wet water bottles, but no need to wrap it, IMO.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
FOM briefings are from the 1980s. No one listens to any of this old non sense. I guess I didn’t share the “mental model” most flights.
Yes, a lot of the CRM and HF stuff is outdated. Not just FDX, but agreed.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
CA reads/briefs the FO on the ATIS outloud ? I can read what came off the printer myself thank you very much
Never heard of this, but I guess I've only been at FDX a few decades, so maybe not not encountered it?

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
There is no common sense up until pushback with how much we brief and brief and talk about the simplest stuff. These briefings were “so important” most people referred to a briefing card or note checklist on iPad to make sure we covered all 39 items
Some people didn't get the memo that briefings should be brief. Hopefully nobody is training people to do that. Maybe they skipped over the part that says "as applicable" to the items?

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Must take off times were mandatory briefs.
That came out of how the company responded to pilots getting violated for taking off and busting flight time rules. A few years of warnings that pilots needed to watch for this didn't work, so they made it mandatory.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
It’s 89 degrees out and the cockpit is over 100. But don’t start that APU until 5 mins prior. Oh wait, there’s baby chicks/ducks onboard, start it 45 mins prior now. Never been more miserable and uncomfortable in an airplane than sitting in a FedEx cockpit. All fleets. Some captains have become sheep with this rule and don’t look out for everyone else onboard when it’s hot and humid
Captains should know better than this.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Paper fuel slips from 2001. At least I know that you really don’t need to turn them in because after IOE I didn’t and never heard boo about them
Yes.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
TOLD Cards. Unbelievable how much paper “needed to be present” entire flight. I threw a W&B in the trash once reaching cruise and the CA said “whoa whoa we need that, the FOM says so”
You don't even need to have a printed copy of it. Was this a supplemental flight? If so, different rules.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Performance briefing. I would say “K Indy”instead of “K I N D” and some guys would want me to say it again. This was an excellent indicator who I was sitting next to for the next few hours.
Were you on the Airbus?

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Can’t have ground and tower in COMM1. Departure freq has to be in standby entire time from gate to lift off in COMM1. No one can explain that one yet.
Never heard of this, what fleet? Definitely not the 727, -11 or 777!

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Below the line taking the runway. Unsafe as FO is heads down for entire time and it’s constant challenge and response
Should only be about two items there?

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
“Before TO checklist complete, runway 36L verified” doesn’t need to be said after you read back a takeoff clearance. It can be done anytime. Then again I’m sure navy guys not on a carrier are overwhelmed at an airport with more than 1 runway.
Again, sounds like an Airbus thing?

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
FO “has the airplane” but the CA is always advancing the thrust levers. Ok sure why not 🤔
Airlines vary on this one, about 50/50 last I checked across the industry.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Keep your hands on the thrust for climb and decent ? That’s an old 727 thing. The A/T do a much better job than any human 95% of the time
No, it is just a smart thing to do, particularly in highly automated aircraft.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Making a change in the FMC yourself while climbing and descending while PF is the biggest no no. Autopilot on of course.
That comes from recommendations out of the FAA automation working group.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
The airports that were considered “special airports” …nothing special about them other than short, and CAs anxiety about them were comical. Was rare that an FO got to land at these places. RNO, ROA, ONT, RIC, ELP, etc
Agreed they are mostly benign, but this is a required FAA designation. Anxiety? Again, must be the Bus!

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
The detail in briefing an arrival is absurd here. Both pilots are totally out of the picture as we’re going check check check check check. Sometime during a decent or runway change there are 5 mins where no one is flying the airplane. Period.
The FOM says brief and only what is required. Sounding more and more like the Bus to me.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Vacating a flight level to ATC ? That’s only for a non radar environment in North American airspace. No other airline does anything remotely close to that or has an FOM carry over rule from the 1980s
Is is a recommendation in the FOM. That hasn't changed. Company can make recommendations mandatory. l

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Altitude verification. Let’s wait silently and point rather than just say the ALT ourselves.
Came out of the FSF recommendations in the aftermath of a bunch of busts at USAir. Pretty much industry standard, what did you fly before?

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
“100” RA

“Continue?” Awesome phase of flight to question someone’s intentions
Genesis was from the LOC work that showed that there is a greater risk of going around due to an unstable approach due to LOC than an accident landing. It is definitely not the last word!

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Briefing when we’re going to add xwind correction and what RA we’re going to flare at is all nonsense. It’s inbreeding from the Air Force. To watch more than one Captain get frustrated with me because I told him I didn’t know shows you just who is in your left seats.
Came from the response to the accidents, although I do think it is not all that well thought out.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
FedEx will have another accident and it’s going to be due to “this isn’t what we briefed” so I’ll take control at the last second.
Example of what happened here? That's just weird.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
The DeBrief on the shutdown checklist. Just what I want to talk about at 0600 as the sun is coming up and all I want to do is get into limo and crawl into bed. Any flight that was damn near perfect and the captain wanted to sit there and waste time probably was most irritating. Also a dangerous thing on probation because what FO is going to bring up issues with a weak ass CA when he needs a good PEP report. It’s a terrible idea in the true interest of safety.
Another FSF recommendation that most carriers follow in one form or another. I do it in the limo.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
FCIFs about 93 year old retired military guys dying. Like it was breaking news. Just this past week some senior captains mom died and it was a flight ops memo
Popular demand keeps that going.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Flight Ops manuals are a mess. Information greatly scattered. It’s a hunt for everything in iPad. No links for anything
Yes, that needs fixing. Not unique to any one carrier.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
A 777 LCA stopped me at 0400 in the cafe to tell me my tie was too loose around my collar. Priorities. If there was a hat policy here it would be great for those types. F15E probably
Weird, sure it was a 777 LCA? In any event, just wait until you get to Delta if you think that's bad!

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Indoc was 9 long days that taught nothing about important things such as bidding, payroll, travel expenses, travel bank, vacation options, booking travel, banking, bidding for training, where to park, where to get a sleep room, here’s how to get updated uniform pieces , how to drop, trade etc. Instead it was 9 days of telling us the things we could be fired for. Many senior captains are still paranoid and scared of the company due to this culture and it’s pathetic. I almost forgot the “secret code” is so important to have on file incase you crash and die. That way the company will tell your family the details. Yep that’s really important guys, that code and bringing a gun to work beat into new hires daily. The best one was the LCA fired mid flight for having a gun from MEM - LAX onboard and security missed the item but upon landing was terminated. Believe she was here for 25 years. Company really takes care of their pilots as you can see.
Yes, that's why there is a New Hire Guide.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
“PRO” sim instructors. Some were fantastic and laid back. Most have zero common sense and very little 121 experience.
Common for most carriers.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
Required to wear a tie to my type ride at 05:00 on a Saturday morning…..Why?
Legacy holdover, started at Tigers, I think.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
MD11 fleet updates, messages, memos, and long drawn out training about approaches, flares, tail strikes, landings, de-rotations. This airplane was the easiest to land in all conditions and the emphasis put on this showed you the paranoia and gun shy attitude to landing a large wide body.
Because every once in a while someone who is arrogant gets bitten hard by the MD-11 and they die. We learned that the hard way. You seem like the awful captain in CRM that doesn't pay attention.

Originally Posted by Purplewaste2021
When arriving separately to work don’t forget to say “I’ll meet you at the jet” instead of airport, ramp, airplane, stairs, ops etc. Guess “the jet” sounds cool from the military days.
That came from the Falcon says, actually. Just a cultural holdover.
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Old 04-08-2024 | 02:51 AM
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Holy ****, I'm glad the person that wrote all of that is gone. Sounds very likely they won't be happy anywhere, this is the easiest aviation job I've had in 30 years ( prior commuter and legacy ). I'm going to guess that persons ego outweighed their abilities and that's why they disliked it at Purple.
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Old 04-08-2024 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpletailed10
Holy ****, I'm glad the person that wrote all of that is gone. Sounds very likely they won't be happy anywhere, this is the easiest aviation job I've had in 30 years ( prior commuter and legacy ). I'm going to guess that persons ego outweighed their abilities and that's why they disliked it at Purple.
Agreed. If any of this stuff is annoying, wait until he goes to an anal pax carrier. Especially Delta. Dude's is in for a rude awakening.
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Old 04-08-2024 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Purpletailed10
Holy ****, I'm glad the person that wrote all of that is gone. Sounds very likely they won't be happy anywhere, this is the easiest aviation job I've had in 30 years ( prior commuter and legacy ). I'm going to guess that persons ego outweighed their abilities and that's why they disliked it at Purple.
Say what you want but many of the gripes are real. A lot of what he posted are just minuscule things to complain about but the overall reality of this company as a pilot is getting worse by the day. The work rules are old and outdated, the soft pay is a joke, and the reserve system is the worst in the industry. Let’s not forget we have to pay a 3rd party service to bid our schedules. Let’s not forget we have many 4 day trips that pay 15 hours or 3 day trips that pay 9. Let’s not forget our jobs were just taken away in CGN. Let’s not forget we’re the only carrier that’s been negotiating for a significant amount of time without a really solid contract. Maybe you’re in a cushy seat doing international flying and life is good but the domestic flying here is garbage with low pay and probably only getting worse.
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Old 04-08-2024 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueAvi8tor
Agreed. If any of this stuff is annoying, wait until he goes to an anal pax carrier. Especially Delta. Dude's is in for a rude awakening.
And they are getting paid for their troubles and seeing record movement while this place is shrinking and stagnating. Their NB FOs are making more than a 75 CA here cranking hub turns every night.
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