Peace Out FedEx
#231
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
Posts: 307
Say what you want but many of the gripes are real. A lot of what he posted are just minuscule things to complain about but the overall reality of this company as a pilot is getting worse by the day. The work rules are old and outdated, the soft pay is a joke, and the reserve system is the worst in the industry. Let’s not forget we have to pay a 3rd party service to bid our schedules. Let’s not forget we have many 4 day trips that pay 15 hours or 3 day trips that pay 9. Let’s not forget our jobs were just taken away in CGN. Let’s not forget we’re the only carrier that’s been negotiating for a significant amount of time without a really solid contract. Maybe you’re in a cushy seat doing international flying and life is good but the domestic flying here is garbage with low pay and probably only getting worse.
Are you saying that they are making more, or that their pay rate is higher?
#232
This varies from airline to airline. Some have the captain walk around (UPS). I don't think any airline trusts the mechanics to do this, I hope not anyway!
That's an FCOM thing, most all the carriers just follow the FCOM these days, for better or worse.
Cold and wet water bottles, but no need to wrap it, IMO.
Yes, a lot of the CRM and HF stuff is outdated. Not just FDX, but agreed.
Never heard of this, but I guess I've only been at FDX a few decades, so maybe not not encountered it?
Some people didn't get the memo that briefings should be brief. Hopefully nobody is training people to do that. Maybe they skipped over the part that says "as applicable" to the items?
That came out of how the company responded to pilots getting violated for taking off and busting flight time rules. A few years of warnings that pilots needed to watch for this didn't work, so they made it mandatory.
Captains should know better than this.
Yes.
You don't even need to have a printed copy of it. Was this a supplemental flight? If so, different rules.
Were you on the Airbus?
Never heard of this, what fleet? Definitely not the 727, -11 or 777!
Should only be about two items there?
Again, sounds like an Airbus thing?
Airlines vary on this one, about 50/50 last I checked across the industry.
No, it is just a smart thing to do, particularly in highly automated aircraft.
That comes from recommendations out of the FAA automation working group.
Agreed they are mostly benign, but this is a required FAA designation. Anxiety? Again, must be the Bus!
The FOM says brief and only what is required. Sounding more and more like the Bus to me.
Is is a recommendation in the FOM. That hasn't changed. Company can make recommendations mandatory. l
Came out of the FSF recommendations in the aftermath of a bunch of busts at USAir. Pretty much industry standard, what did you fly before?
Genesis was from the LOC work that showed that there is a greater risk of going around due to an unstable approach due to LOC than an accident landing. It is definitely not the last word!
Came from the response to the accidents, although I do think it is not all that well thought out.
Example of what happened here? That's just weird.
Another FSF recommendation that most carriers follow in one form or another. I do it in the limo.
Popular demand keeps that going.
Yes, that needs fixing. Not unique to any one carrier.
Weird, sure it was a 777 LCA? In any event, just wait until you get to Delta if you think that's bad!
Yes, that's why there is a New Hire Guide.
Common for most carriers.
Legacy holdover, started at Tigers, I think.
Because every once in a while someone who is arrogant gets bitten hard by the MD-11 and they die. We learned that the hard way. You seem like the awful captain in CRM that doesn't pay attention.
That came from the Falcon says, actually. Just a cultural holdover.
That's an FCOM thing, most all the carriers just follow the FCOM these days, for better or worse.
Cold and wet water bottles, but no need to wrap it, IMO.
Yes, a lot of the CRM and HF stuff is outdated. Not just FDX, but agreed.
Never heard of this, but I guess I've only been at FDX a few decades, so maybe not not encountered it?
Some people didn't get the memo that briefings should be brief. Hopefully nobody is training people to do that. Maybe they skipped over the part that says "as applicable" to the items?
That came out of how the company responded to pilots getting violated for taking off and busting flight time rules. A few years of warnings that pilots needed to watch for this didn't work, so they made it mandatory.
Captains should know better than this.
Yes.
You don't even need to have a printed copy of it. Was this a supplemental flight? If so, different rules.
Were you on the Airbus?
Never heard of this, what fleet? Definitely not the 727, -11 or 777!
Should only be about two items there?
Again, sounds like an Airbus thing?
Airlines vary on this one, about 50/50 last I checked across the industry.
No, it is just a smart thing to do, particularly in highly automated aircraft.
That comes from recommendations out of the FAA automation working group.
Agreed they are mostly benign, but this is a required FAA designation. Anxiety? Again, must be the Bus!
The FOM says brief and only what is required. Sounding more and more like the Bus to me.
Is is a recommendation in the FOM. That hasn't changed. Company can make recommendations mandatory. l
Came out of the FSF recommendations in the aftermath of a bunch of busts at USAir. Pretty much industry standard, what did you fly before?
Genesis was from the LOC work that showed that there is a greater risk of going around due to an unstable approach due to LOC than an accident landing. It is definitely not the last word!
Came from the response to the accidents, although I do think it is not all that well thought out.
Example of what happened here? That's just weird.
Another FSF recommendation that most carriers follow in one form or another. I do it in the limo.
Popular demand keeps that going.
Yes, that needs fixing. Not unique to any one carrier.
Weird, sure it was a 777 LCA? In any event, just wait until you get to Delta if you think that's bad!
Yes, that's why there is a New Hire Guide.
Common for most carriers.
Legacy holdover, started at Tigers, I think.
Because every once in a while someone who is arrogant gets bitten hard by the MD-11 and they die. We learned that the hard way. You seem like the awful captain in CRM that doesn't pay attention.
That came from the Falcon says, actually. Just a cultural holdover.
#234
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Posts: 21
Look at OAK F/O open time. There is a 3-day that pays 10h55m. That same trip at Delta would pay over 15 hours.
#235
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 752
This is the Marie Antoinette “Let them eat cake” of the FedEx world. I’ve had shotgun lines that would pay 102 hours at the legacies and SWA. Instead, I get min-BLG and am gone max calendar days.
#236
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
Posts: 307
#238
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2023
Posts: 31
I think we need the Block 4 and 5 reps, data geniuses, to sanction a case study of what each of our bid pack trips would pay at each of the majors, every month. I am sure with that data in hand they can bring us the CBA of our dreams and be industry crushing in no time !
Nah, lets continue to look at things that are on the other side of the fence while this group craps all over our own lawn. Can't wait for the new NC to execute the new vision of the good Dr. We should have a CBA in time for the next eclipse, well that's a bit too optimistic , but a girl can dream.
Nah, lets continue to look at things that are on the other side of the fence while this group craps all over our own lawn. Can't wait for the new NC to execute the new vision of the good Dr. We should have a CBA in time for the next eclipse, well that's a bit too optimistic , but a girl can dream.
#239
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 752
Soft pay is a joke.
Low value 3 and 4 day trips.
Well, here you go you lazy bum. Took me all of 5 minutes to look up on BidX. These are on the Bus. Trip 182
17:21 Credit
Sunday - Wednesday
65:02 TAFB
4.3375 Per Day
Trip 315
11:33 Credit
Sunday - Tuesday
43:20 TAFB
3.85 Per Day
These two combined are 7 calendar days that pay 28.9 hours. At any legacy or SWA, this would be 36.75 or better. We are working at a discount of 21%.
Those are the facts. Can’t wait for your pedantic response.
#240
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
Posts: 307
Two statements from Ogar:
Soft pay is a joke.
Low value 3 and 4 day trips.
Well, here you go you lazy bum. Took me all of 5 minutes to look up on BidX. These are on the Bus. Trip 182
17:21 Credit
Sunday - Wednesday
65:02 TAFB
4.3375 Per Day
Trip 315
11:33 Credit
Sunday - Tuesday
43:20 TAFB
3.85 Per Day
These two combined are 7 calendar days that pay 28.9 hours. At any legacy or SWA, this would be 36.75 or better. We are working at a discount of 21%.
Those are the facts. Can’t wait for your pedantic response.
Soft pay is a joke.
Low value 3 and 4 day trips.
Well, here you go you lazy bum. Took me all of 5 minutes to look up on BidX. These are on the Bus. Trip 182
17:21 Credit
Sunday - Wednesday
65:02 TAFB
4.3375 Per Day
Trip 315
11:33 Credit
Sunday - Tuesday
43:20 TAFB
3.85 Per Day
These two combined are 7 calendar days that pay 28.9 hours. At any legacy or SWA, this would be 36.75 or better. We are working at a discount of 21%.
Those are the facts. Can’t wait for your pedantic response.
You still haven't provided a pairing that meets those criteria.
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