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Old 05-31-2024 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Maddog64
Do you really think that PM did anything without the MEC telling him exactly what to do? Do you think he went Rogue and negotiated TA 1 without being told what to negotiate for. You guys are delusional. TA 1 failure rests squarly on the old MEC and MEC chair that had the A plan as their number one priority.
I believe that had the company not dragged their feet for so long and our TA came out prior to Delta and United, we would have voted for it.

It is good to see people on here realizing what the NC for the 2015 contract figured out, that upping the A plan is just too expensive and we don't get all the benefit for what it costs the company. It's time to move on and either leave the FAE cap at 130 and take a big bump in the B plan, or offer a buyout of the A plan and switch to a big B plan,
Yes. I believe he did. He had an agenda and he was determined to see it through. CN was a puppet that PM was controlling.

Don’t be fooled, yes voter.
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Old 05-31-2024 | 11:57 AM
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Actually a no voter and not a member of the SM group. What about the 13 Members of the MEC that voted for the TA? Were they all puppets too. The MEC decides what we want to present and what we will accept not the MEC chair.

I agree that CN wanted a big A plan, but he didn't decide what to offer or what to bring to the members for a vote.
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Old 05-31-2024 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jackryan
Yes. I believe he did. He had an agenda and he was determined to see it through. CN was a puppet that PM was controlling.

Don’t be fooled, yes voter.
Originally Posted by Maddog64
Actually a no voter and not a member of the SM group. What about the 13 Members of the MEC that voted for the TA? Were they all puppets too. The MEC decides what we want to present and what we will accept not the MEC chair.

I agree that CN wanted a big A plan, but he didn't decide what to offer or what to bring to the members for a vote.
I think it was a collective effort between CN, PM, and MANY of the former MEC. And....the one and only priority was A-plan bump. No other section in TA1 had any notable improvements, and many were clearly worse.

Thankfully we don't have to assign blame to any specific person....they are all gone (finally).
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Old 05-31-2024 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FedUpWilson318
You mean the children too obstinate and selfish to vote yes on your $39k pension bump at the expense of industry-and-inflation lagging pay, QOL giveaways, laughable APRP, pulling the ladder up on future pilots, and scope so weak you could fly a M77CA through it?

Go back under you bridge, troll!
I don’t understand why you keep calling me a troll. We all needed that pension. I would give away everything for that 39,000 dollars. You have so much already. Listen to your superiors and trust what they have to say. Captain PD just came out with a truly remarkable letter about the future and you still don’t trust. Are you happy as a troll yourself?
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Old 05-31-2024 | 02:45 PM
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Probably group think, like school of fish theory. Why stick your neck out and draw fire? If you are wrong, then you are all wrong together. Surely they can't fire everyone. Kind of like financial advisors telling W2 earners to index themselves in 60/40 portfolios. It works! Look at this chart from 1980 onward!
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Old 05-31-2024 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by M77CA
I don’t understand why you keep calling me a troll.
If the troll sized shoe fits...

Originally Posted by M77CA
I would give away everything for that 39,000 dollars.
CN, is that you? PM? Thankfully at least 57% of the crew force would not.
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Old 05-31-2024 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddog64
Actually a no voter and not a member of the SM group. What about the 13 Members of the MEC that voted for the TA? Were they all puppets too. The MEC decides what we want to present and what we will accept not the MEC chair.

I agree that CN wanted a big A plan, but he didn't decide what to offer or what to bring to the members for a vote.
I can tell you at least 1 out of 13 was a puppet. didn’t take long to figure that out during a phone call with the individual.
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Old 05-31-2024 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by M77CA
I don’t understand why you keep calling me a troll. We all needed that pension. I would give away everything for that 39,000 dollars. You have so much already. Listen to your superiors and trust what they have to say. Captain PD just came out with a truly remarkable letter about the future and you still don’t trust. Are you happy as a troll yourself?

ah dang you just broke your streak, I didn’t laugh at this one
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Old 05-31-2024 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FedUpWilson318
If the troll sized shoe fits...



CN, is that you? PM? Thankfully at least 57% of the crew force would not.
57% of the crew farce needs to rethink.
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Old 05-31-2024 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Anomjnom12
ah dang you just broke your streak, I didn’t laugh at this one
I am not a comedian and this message board is not a joke. I hope we can fly together and share a STN beer on a layover and discuss where this group went wrong. Enjoy the holiday weekend.
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