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Old 05-23-2024, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
The new MEC loves wolfpack. They fired the SPSC chair and replaced him with one of the biggest wolfpack members. Irony is rich here.
Perhaps you should look at his open to everyone calendar and that should end the debate on this.
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Old 05-23-2024, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock
I’m shocked. 🙄

Tuck, Huck, Cuck & Rock -

The 4 member club who just couldn't get enough of the givebacks during 2015 contract they sold with everything they had. So they had to come back with a vengance to sell TA2023 .

Now, just coming across as absolute sore losers for not succeeding in selling away our QOL, scope, pay, retro bonus, etc., etc., etc...
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Old 05-23-2024, 05:22 PM
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2015 contract must not have been that bad as you kissed alot of a-- to come here. I would have thought if it was so bad you would have picked a better place. Should I pull up so post prior to you getting hired here?
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Old 05-23-2024, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Tuck, Huck, Cuck & Rock -

The 4 member club who just couldn't get enough of the givebacks during 2015 contract they sold with everything they had. So they had to come back with a vengance to sell TA2023 .

Now, just coming across as absolute sore losers for not succeeding in selling away our QOL, scope, pay, retro bonus, etc., etc., etc...
Did you hear that boys? The monkey can talk.

Your ignorance has cost me $78,236 so far. Destined to be far more.
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Old 05-23-2024, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Huck
Your ignorance has cost me $78,236 so far. Destined to be far more.
one could argue that the other way as well..
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Old 05-23-2024, 06:30 PM
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Not really but we will hopefully know in about 4 months.
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Old 05-23-2024, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianH
Perhaps you should look at his open to everyone calendar and that should end the debate on this.
They won’t. It is much easier to blame their woes on him and his mythical Wolfpack membership. His calendar looks quite ordinary for a claim of being a member.

Originally Posted by Huck
Did you hear that boys? The monkey can talk.

Your ignorance has cost me $78,236 so far. Destined to be far more.
Stop counting money you never had, it will improve your quality of life and mental health. TA 1 was a failure, dwelling on it does you no good. Clean up the jet, ask for vectors and try the approach again.

Add: May is mental health awareness month, take some time heal.

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Old 05-23-2024, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Tuck, Huck, Cuck & Rock -

The 4 member club who just couldn't get enough of the givebacks during 2015 contract they sold with everything they had. So they had to come back with a vengance to sell TA2023 .

Now, just coming across as absolute sore losers for not succeeding in selling away our QOL, scope, pay, retro bonus, etc., etc., etc...
Eh. I’m probably the only guy at FedEx who doesn’t know who any of the Wolfpack members are. Probably have to sign up for jetflyers to get that kind of scoop.
All I know is that my plans to retire before 60 have basically evaporated into a fantasy land of “we’ll have all kinds of great leverage if we vote TA1 down and the company comes crawling to us with whatever we ask for in TA2”. How’s that working out so far? I can’t keep up…do we actually have functional MEC yet or are we still recalling people every meeting? Speaking of recall, I seem to recall lots of promises about openness and constant communication from the incoming reps. That seems to have gone the way of our “leverage”. Never thought I’d see anyone cheering about getting paid rates we negotiated 10 years ago, but here we are. Apparently stagnation is victory. Meanwhile, not sure anyone has noticed, but the company is making all kinds of decisions about reducing the size of our flying operation and seems pretty happy they don’t have to pay us more while they do it. Win win for them. 🎉🎉 At least someone is happy.
See you around the flagpole boys. I’m stuck here until I turn 60 because I very much doubt we’ll see a new TA in the next 2.5 years. The only real question I have is whatever happened to those dudes in this forum who talked endlessly about how our leverage going forward was going to make everyone rich. Things like peak and the postal contract. Vote no now because the company NEEDS us to have a contract. I don’t see them posting at all anymore. I wonder if they were management. They certainly did heavy lifting to keep us stuck with 10 year old pay rates and retirement. And now…silence. In the faint distance I can almost hear the fading echoes of “in unity”.
Now stand by for Anthrax to step in with 1990s vintage mom jokes. He’s like our contract negotiations. Reliably stale and stagnant.
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Eh. Iokes. He’s like our contract negotiations. Reliably stale and stagnant.
You pretty much hit it. There's nothing wrong with voting No on a contract if our Union had a plan. Now we are just drifting. Lots of things have changed, USPS contract gone. But I'll keep saying this, plenty of pilots worked extra during negotiations and here we are. For some reason our pilot group thinks helping the company during a boom period helps the pilots trying to get a contract. So day flying disapperaing in October. New bid in the fall, guess what, dump and flush. Lots of junior guys getting realainged with where they should be, 75 FO. But hey, they majors are hiring, or are they? TA1 is going to be a dream you wish you could have now. And Josie is your worst enemy. This guy is in it for himself.
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Old 05-24-2024, 06:23 AM
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You pretty much hit it. There's nothing wrong with voting No on a contract if our Union had a plan. Now we are just drifting. Lots of things have changed, USPS contract gone. But I'll keep saying this, plenty of pilots worked extra during negotiations and here we are. For some reason our pilot group thinks helping the company during a boom period helps the pilots trying to get a contract. So day flying disapperaing in October. New bid in the fall, guess what, dump and flush. Lots of junior guys getting realainged with where they should be, 75 FO. But hey, they majors are hiring, or are they? TA1 is going to be a dream you wish you could have now. And Josie is your worst enemy. This guy is in it for himself.
man you MayTA boys never quit. Our leverage is called pattern bargaining and refusing to accept an awful concessionary below industry standard pay contract. I agree our leverage is not at an all time high not needing to hire pilots, shrinking and stagnating the seniority list, and realigning the company or whatever idiotic buzz word they are using this week. I’m upset too, we are all some of the lowest paid pilots in the industry right now and it sucks but that doesn’t mean you just bend over ask for some astroglide and take one up your tuchus. The deal was literally a pay cut, threatened jobs, and gave away multiple qol items at a company that lacks in that area. Give it a rest and stand together with everyone unwilling to say yes to less. You all cry we have no leverage while crushing any leverage we do have by not getting onboard with the actual majority.
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