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10-12-2025 | 01:56 PM
#41
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Someone answer me this, what's the harm in letting AB see if he can get some progress? It's explained multiple times by multiple people that a contract cannot be forced upon us and that we'll all have a chance to look at it, and if the MEC decides to send it for a vote, we'll all have a say.
If JG gets put back in place, we won't be back at the table for some time so we're not missing out on anything by letting the current NC and SMEs do their thing.
Tell me what harm is. I'm all ears.
If JG gets put back in place, we won't be back at the table for some time so we're not missing out on anything by letting the current NC and SMEs do their thing.
Tell me what harm is. I'm all ears.
10-12-2025 | 02:07 PM
#42
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Watched his scripted, biased video last week. In 18 months barely even did a thing. Supposals and some talk. We should have closed a lot of sections by now. So far only CPAP. This is with five guys on the payroll. Could have done all that with one guy on the payroll for a few days.
10-12-2025 | 02:17 PM
#43
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Watched his scripted, biased video last week. In 18 months barely even did a thing. Supposals and some talk. We should have closed a lot of sections by now. So far only CPAP. This is with five guys on the payroll. Could have done all that with one guy on the payroll for a few days.
Today's podcast from AB and MH is very telling about what actually works and what doesn't.
However, it will fall on the deaf ears of those who actually need to listen to it.
10-12-2025 | 04:19 PM
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Is this the narrative that’s going on now? Are we now pretending that Scope Chair SI did not contribute to the JG NC? I just remember that off the top of my head. But I would hazard a guess that we had several SME’s contribute over the last 12 months. It would be impossible to make financial decisions without an SME.
10-12-2025 | 05:27 PM
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You would think the SME’s were fully involved in the process with JG. However, from his latest video it sure didn’t seem like it.
It is almost like the five told JG drag this out, we do not want a contract until we can strike.
It is almost like the five told JG drag this out, we do not want a contract until we can strike.
10-12-2025 | 06:25 PM
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Is this the narrative that’s going on now? Are we now pretending that Scope Chair SI did not contribute to the JG NC? I just remember that off the top of my head. But I would hazard a guess that we had several SME’s contribute over the last 12 months. It would be impossible to make financial decisions without an SME.
By the way...deaf ears.
10-13-2025 | 03:52 AM
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It looks like the latter.
10-13-2025 | 05:11 AM
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And let's not kid ourselves on who has the agenda here.
And while you're at it, you can answer my question: What's the harm in seeing what AB can do? What are you afraid of?
10-13-2025 | 08:08 AM
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10-13-2025 | 09:06 AM
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JG has said a lot of stuff lately that has been proven false. I'm not on JF anymore and I don't believe one word written in that one-sided echo chamber. Did you listen to the podcast?
And let's not kid ourselves on who has the agenda here.
And while you're at it, you can answer my question: What's the harm in seeing what AB can do? What are you afraid of?
And let's not kid ourselves on who has the agenda here.
And while you're at it, you can answer my question: What's the harm in seeing what AB can do? What are you afraid of?
Personally, I think his lack of unity with his former NC team and accepting a position that our own policy manual advised against says something about him. That could be political, but I don’t think it is.
But if we come out of this time of growing leverage and accept a fraction of backpay for 4.A.2.c and he slides student lines in there, then we squandered the leverage we had before peak. That would amount to a huge loss and a wasted period of negotiations. That’s the harm. If you don’t have a problem with that, then you didn’t have a problem when it was JG.
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