Originally Posted by Fdxlag2

I know of two guys retiring this year at <60 Maybe they see a trend.

Originally Posted by VamosALaPlaya

.. a B scale like Fedex (757) ...

Originally Posted by Noworkallplay

Recruitment said at the last career fair in the spring that half the pilot group will be replaced in the next 7 years.

Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox

That's odd, the mandatory retirements doesn't come close to replacing half of the list in 7 years. My math says we will only replace 1152 pilots, a little more than a thousand short of half.

Originally Posted by appDude

So other airlines have A,B,C,D,E,F,G.... scales?

The term B scale refers to airlines paying certain seniority numbers different than other seniority numbers for the same work, not paying different pay for different equipment or different work.

So domestic is a B scale to international?

Our different pay rates at FedEx do not include a 'B' scale.

Your opinion of liking a single pay rate like UPS might be valid, but use facts, not slander to make your point.

Originally Posted by Hacker15e

Annual hiring since 2016 has been outpacing annual retirement numbers, so just counting mandatory retirements wouldn't account for the "statistic".

Originally Posted by ARAMP1

To each their own. That two year 757 captain can drop a third of his line and still make what he was making for the month as a two year widebody FO. But, chances are he doesn’t drop anything and just sits reserve out in his back yard by his pool.

Originally Posted by Sluggo_63

Sure you're not...

Maybe if UPS didn't have hundreds of management pilots they wouldn't have furloughed your "brothers" stranded them in Anchorage with no move package back to the States and then held them hostage for years while they kept hiring and increasing the ranks of your built in replacement pilot force.

We all live in glass houses.

Enjoy your career at UPS.

Originally Posted by KYTBRD

I agree with you regarding the ability to drop your trips and work less yet. Are the same. But I think the guys who will upgrade as fast as possible are those folks close enough to MEM to sit reserve at home because you be on reserve for quite a while. I wouldn’t want to be a junior Capt commuting to mem for the foreseeable future just to sit reserve. I avoid mem layovers longer than 14 hours. Any more than that and I’m wasting time with my family as a commuter.

Originally Posted by VamosALaPlaya

If UPS had a B scale like Fedex (757), lesser overall retirement benefits, lesser baseline guarantee, maybe the 757 would also have a 2-3 year upgrade as well. The grass is always greener on the “other side”.

And by the way, 18 month seniority on MD at Fedex is most definitely not 57% seniority, more like 80%. Big difference.

For prospective job seekers, the global picture is the best piece of the puzzle. As a guy who recently had offers from Fedex, UPS and a Legacy, I can say one thing. NO one job is better than the other. No doubt whatsoever Fedex (this being a Fedex thread) is an absolutely wonderful job, great company, great benefits, people, etc. No doubt whatsoever. But, to paint somewhat inaccurate pictures only serves to provide misleading information to potential new hires.

The upgrade in the 757 at Fedex is running at 2-3 years, but only because the 757 is on a B scale and the schedules are aweful. I have at least 4 friends at Fedex with 10+ years, 2 in the MD, 2 in the AB, that would not touch the 757 PIC with a 10 ft pole. The difference in pay, loss of QOL, etc, is simply not worth it. As a 10+ year SIC in the MD you can make close to base pay as a 757 PIC.

Again, not bashing Purple at all, whoever gets hired there is very fortunate, but the numbers being thrown around (percentages) are not entirely accurate.