I know of two guys retiring this year at <60 Maybe they see a trend.

 

Yeah, I know five or six that are going early. One guy at 57!

 

So other airlines have A,B,C,D,E,F,G.... scales?

The term B scale refers to airlines paying certain seniority numbers different than other seniority numbers for the same work, not paying different pay for different equipment or different work.

So domestic is a B scale to international?

Our different pay rates at FedEx do not include a 'B' scale.

Your opinion of liking a single pay rate like UPS might be valid, but use facts, not slander to make your point.

 

Annual hiring since 2016 has been outpacing annual retirement numbers, so just counting mandatory retirements wouldn't account for the "statistic".

 

Was not attempting to slander, especially because I have several friends who have been hired by Fedex lately and a few had several offers, highly encouraged them to go to Fedex. So I most definitely do not believe UPS is any better or worse than Fedex. They are both good jobs with good and bad issues. What I trying to convey was simply if UPS had a lower paying scale for the 75, maybe relative seniority and upgrade time might be similar. But because no one needs to chase planes here, it is pretty evenly spread out.

 

What recruitment is saying is simply misleading. When they say half the pilot group will be replaced the next 7 years, to ANY normal individual, that would mean half of almost 5,000 pilots, or 2,500 pilot will be replaced in the next 7 years, which is simply false.

 

I agree with you regarding the ability to drop your trips and work less yet. Are the same. But I think the guys who will upgrade as fast as possible are those folks close enough to MEM to sit reserve at home because you be on reserve for quite a while. I wouldn’t want to be a junior Capt commuting to mem for the foreseeable future just to sit reserve. I avoid mem layovers longer than 14 hours. Any more than that and I’m wasting time with my family as a commuter.

 

Well, considering the FQS ranks is down to the lowest number almost ever, around 120-130, from over 200+, it is definitely trending in the right direction. So “hundreds” is most definitely very innacurate and “replacement work force”???. They could maybe move a quarter of the fleet, and a big maybe. No one is denying what happened with the unnecessary furlough, but that is not the point I was trying to make. Pilot supply and demand market has changed the landscape.

I think we are going off on a tangent. People post misleading info such as relative seniority movement in fleets, half the pilot group being replaced in 7 years (not true), etc. Potential new hires see this and go in with false expectations. Simply pick the job you want for your own personal reasons and run with it. Fedex, UPS, a Legacy, SW, you can’t go wrong, all very good jobs.

 

That is exactly my thought. You will have to live in MEM to have ANY QOL. If someone is willing to move, then it will probably be pretty good, you will be looking at reserve for a very long time. But how many people who have roots elsewhere, families, etc, actually want to move to MEM? Or to a Legacy base, or to SDF? Commuting to reserve undeniably sucks big time!!!

 

A 3rd year guy getting NB captain pay is not misleading. It is an extremely relevant factor in where to go. Particularly if you are over 40. QOL vs money is the age old Airline Pilot conundrum, and I am grateful FDX is a place where it is a realistic choice, particularly for new guys. And you can have a great QOL and not live in Memphis if you are willing to sacrifice money.