Haven't we ploughed this ground enough? Our union did NOT lobby to change the regulated age.

If you really want to rehash, can we do it in a different thread?



If it's the issue that prevents The Company from consummating a deal, we at least owe it to ourselves to consider it. Absent a deal, I don't see any pay rate increases on the horizon, and we still have the same old accepted fares problem. I could go on ...






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Right, because FDX ALPA publishes Vacancy Postings and Excess Postings.

Chief Pilot Jack Lewis gets the credit for manipulating those bids, but he is somehow more remembered for his "charming" e-mails.






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So let me get this straight. If the current offer on the table is Industry leading AND it includes an incentive for these "old guys" to retire then some on this thread want to go to self help because someone got more than me. Please tell me I'm in a alternate universe and this is not real.

 

You are in an alternate universe and this is not real.

 

Thanks for the confirmation MaxKts! It made me laugh

 

The old guys already got a 25K "incentive", which they get to keep whether they retire before 65 or not.

You want to give them more?

Please tell me I am in an alternative universe and this is not real.

 

So I take it you want to go to self help because some group that's "not you" got more? Using that logic why don't we do away with this terrible wage discrepancy between Capts and FOs?

 

Wow. Just, wow.

 

It really does depend on the deal. I haven't seen any offers yet, I am keeping a open mind, but I would prefer we all get treated equally and we don't take money from some to give to others. Would you vote yes if they gave 1st officers a 30% raise and Captains a 15% raise? Sometimes with ALPA you have to wait and see. Always with the company you have to wait and see.

 

ALPA is supposed to represent all members of the seniority list equally.

If they don't include the 25k payment in this contract, then they will have not represented me equally. What about that is so hard for you to understand?

They said they got the FE's back in the front seat because "it was the right thing to do".

I say giving everyone the 25K that some got in the last contract is the "right thing to do".

Why is that so hard to understand?

The company wants to give the new hires a different retirement account. Why should I care? Because it will lead to this exact type of division within the seniority list.

If you are in favor of giving a special bonus or special deal to those that retire under this contract, are you also in favor or screwing the new hires out of our retirement plan?

So, you asked me if someone else got a better deal than I did, would I vote no? The answer is heck yes. I am not about to vote in favor of screwing myself.

Self help is another matter. I would prefer not to be in self help, and if we do go to self help, I would be in favor of everything short of strike. I don't think a strike is a good idea for many reasons, and I think we can get what we deserve by working to the rule.