FDX-Fruitful Week?
08-08-2015 | 06:35 PM
#22
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My first thought when I saw sec 25 had been ta'd was "crap". Mainly because the changes I now want have been brought on by the last year of abuse, and the changes I want would have been fought tooth and nail by management. The fact it was ta'd in the middle of a scheduling meltdown makes me extra cynical. I'm just one voter, but this section is now my hill to die on, and I'll be reading it closely.
08-08-2015 | 07:18 PM
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08-08-2015 | 07:45 PM
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This is true for almost everyone!
I absolutely agree with this. Also, the pay raise must be very significant, no concessions at all, and language whereby scheduling can abuse us must be fixed.
I have a long memory, and the company has done significant harm to the pilot's goodwill. It may be too late to get that back even after the contract. I think the company grossly misplayed their hand to their detriment for a long time to come.
The company should look to the Delta pilot's rejection of their TA and make sure it doesn't happen here. I'm essentially a no vote when handed the TA and have to be convinced that it's worthy of a yes. I'm that disgusted with their tactics this go around.
I have a long memory, and the company has done significant harm to the pilot's goodwill. It may be too late to get that back even after the contract. I think the company grossly misplayed their hand to their detriment for a long time to come.
The company should look to the Delta pilot's rejection of their TA and make sure it doesn't happen here. I'm essentially a no vote when handed the TA and have to be convinced that it's worthy of a yes. I'm that disgusted with their tactics this go around.
08-09-2015 | 10:48 AM
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I wonder if ALPA or Management can use this strategy for their next negotiating summary?
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08-09-2015 | 12:20 PM
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So a TA is finally produced. There is a two week road show to explain it to the troops. Three or four weeks of voting. It gets turned down. Now it goes back for more negotiating (so management can get a 51% approval vote). In history, how many times has a TA been voted down twice in a row? Is it possible that all this time consumption allows management to slide right on through another peak? They're not as dumb as they appear. And they DO appear dumb.
08-09-2015 | 12:29 PM
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So a TA is finally produced. There is a two week road show to explain it to the troops. Three or four weeks of voting. It gets turned down. Now it goes back for more negotiating (so management can get a 51% approval vote). In history, how many times has a TA been voted down twice in a row? Is it possible that all this time consumption allows management to slide right on through another peak? They're not as dumb as they appear. And they DO appear dumb.
08-09-2015 | 03:15 PM
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So a TA is finally produced. There is a two week road show to explain it to the troops. Three or four weeks of voting. It gets turned down. Now it goes back for more negotiating (so management can get a 51% approval vote). In history, how many times has a TA been voted down twice in a row? Is it possible that all this time consumption allows management to slide right on through another peak? They're not as dumb as they appear. And they DO appear dumb.
I think it's best for the company to negotiate a great TA for us. We deserve it and we know it. Pilots are very unhappy individually now, and the company would be foolish to put forward TA language that would pass 51%. The other 49% in that case would still be unhappy and peak couldn't run with that level of dissatisfaction.
I'm ready for cooling off and a strike vote ASAP if we don't have a great TA in a couple of weeks.
It's past time.
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