ATP vs LIFT vs Lufthansa Flight Training
05-03-2020, 02:52 AM
#91
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Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo
I 100% second this. ATP or lift is pointless right now unless you just like burning through money.
05-03-2020, 08:00 AM
#92
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
why not just find a small part 61 school where you won’t pay as much for training and get better training most likely. I don’t get the obsession with wanting to go to either Lift or ATP. Neither schools are going to give you a leg up.
In reality, I'm paying extra for availability and equipment.
05-03-2020, 01:25 PM
#93
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Originally Posted by Parc
Equipment, consistency, and availability for me. The only mom-and-pop nearby me that is actually cheaper than ATP (seriously!) is flying well-maintained but tired planes with minimal modern avionics. I had 5 different instructors with 6 completely different ideas on what the curriculum should be. That school only allows scheduling 2 weeks out and no more than 2 scheduled lessons a week, and there's exactly ONE instructor for CFI candidates. While that instructor has great experience and I wish I could sit in a room and just talk to them for hours on end, the reality is that instructor is on their 12th hour by the time they get to CFI instruction (they only do it after 5pm). The odds of them nodding off during your practice instruction is near 100%.
In reality, I'm paying extra for availability and equipment.
In reality, I'm paying extra for availability and equipment.
Mom and Pops want you to remain there cause they don't have the certainty of having other students come in like flight academies do.
05-03-2020, 06:25 PM
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05-04-2020, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Parc
Equipment, consistency, and availability for me. The only mom-and-pop nearby me that is actually cheaper than ATP (seriously!) is flying well-maintained but tired planes with minimal modern avionics. I had 5 different instructors with 6 completely different ideas on what the curriculum should be. That school only allows scheduling 2 weeks out and no more than 2 scheduled lessons a week, and there's exactly ONE instructor for CFI candidates. While that instructor has great experience and I wish I could sit in a room and just talk to them for hours on end, the reality is that instructor is on their 12th hour by the time they get to CFI instruction (they only do it after 5pm). The odds of them nodding off during your practice instruction is near 100%.
In reality, I'm paying extra for availability and equipment.
In reality, I'm paying extra for availability and equipment.
05-04-2020, 10:27 AM
#97
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Originally Posted by Valiant
BTW no one answered what will happen to mins required by low end 135 operators like Ameriflight etc etc.
06-08-2020, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Domahmegok
if Lift can still guarantee the FO position at ATP mins, it might be worth it. Might be only way to actually get onboard an airline with low hours in the next couple of years.
For those looking for some stability, it might be better to stick out your desk job and CFI over weekends. It might take you 5 years, but at least you’ll be a little better off for the time being.
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