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Old 04-16-2020, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Valiant View Post
I will be spending 2 to 3 years in training.
What might the hiring scenario look like when I emerge from training.

Bcz of economic conditions leisure travel will slow.
But necessary travel will still be there albeit might try to find cheaper means in the form of buses and trains maybe.

It'll be interesting to see how Fractionals/Corporate industry is effected.
It will be bad until the Majors start hiring again. Some say it will be 5 to 6 years before that happens again.
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Old 04-17-2020, 06:45 AM
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It will be bad until the Majors start hiring again. Some say it will be 5 to 6 years before that happens again.
If it really will take 5 to 6 years then it may not be such a bad deal for me. 2-2.5 years I'll spend in training. Rest I'll be able to build some time and experience in the regionals.
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Originally Posted by Domahmegok View Post
Latest from Lift is no classes until Fall 2020.

I guess it it works out for me, few more months of saving before the big change.
Thanks for the heads up.
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If it really will take 5 to 6 years then it may not be such a bad deal for me. 2-2.5 years I'll spend in training. Rest I'll be able to build some time and experience in the regionals.
In the past when the Majors were stagnant, hiring mins for the Regionals went up also and pay across the board went down/stagnated. Part 135/91 jobs will be there, but at poverty wages.
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Old 04-17-2020, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Domahmegok View Post
Latest from Lift is no classes until Fall 2020.

I guess it it works out for me, few more months of saving before the big change.
Republic has cancelled all new hire classes until 2021, no point in pumping out pilots with nowhere to go afterwards.
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Originally Posted by Air Guitar View Post
JetBlue Gateway Select and Southwest 225 both use CAE in Mesa, Arizona for training. It is about a year and a half long 141 ab initio program.

ATP is starting a new program with Frontier. Currently only select CFI's are eligible but will be expanding on it soon.

Westwind Flight School, also in Arizona was just purchased recently by United and they will be having a new program with them soon(or not if we enter into a zombie apocalypse).

LIFT, but I'm sure you have all the details you need. If taking out loans is the only way. This one is your best bet in my opinion. It is also the only one on the list that does not have an Arizona location.

Lufthansa just had an accident with one of their planes two weeks ago. I believe it was a mechanical error instead of pilot error, but just something to keep in mind.

Hope that helps.
I just ran an NTSB query and nothing. There is one from Oxford though. Can you give more info than "Lufthansa had an accident"?
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I just ran an NTSB query and nothing. There is one from Oxford though. Can you give more info than "Lufthansa had an accident"?
They had a gear up due to the gear being jammed in the retracted position. Surprised you couldn’t find it, a news helicopter filmed the landing.

wasn’t really an “accident” though.
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Originally Posted by Domahmegok View Post
Latest from Lift is no classes until Fall 2020.

I guess it it works out for me, few more months of saving before the big change.
If I spend 3-4 months at ATP getting private, can I switch to LIFT when they call me??
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LIFT set up an interview for me on Monday. Kinda excited.
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If I spend 3-4 months at ATP getting private, can I switch to LIFT when they call me??
You can join Lift at any stage of your training. Plenty of students come in with Private already complete.
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