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Old 02-11-2015, 09:19 AM
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I heard the same thing with the aircraft lock. Also know one guy working there and he said he doesn't fly the entire 6 days on he just has to be "available" which if you live in base then that nice but if you commute well.... Heck even a 12 on 6 off is better than 6 on 3 off In my opinion.

Seems like an odd dynamic with WU owning the company and running the airplanes and then Gama supplying the pilots. Why doesn't WU run their own pilots? I know back when I worked at one of the ISR companies, they had bid on supplying the pilots.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RI830 View Post
I was told that WU was keeping the KA and Citations seperate.
Any guy hired into the KA's would have little or no chance to go into the Citations.
Can anyone confirm that? Rumor has it that two guys walked out of class after learning that.
It was that way, but I believe they have newly implemented flow through program.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:02 AM
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Any PIC openings/hiring going on?
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Old 02-27-2015, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers View Post
Any PIC openings/hiring going on?
A few interviewed yesterday for Phenom 100 PIC spots in FTW. There aren't many SIC's who have enough flight time to upgrade at the moment.
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Old 02-28-2015, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vsipegged View Post
I know many pilots look forward to possibly moving up into bigger equipment here, whether it be from the fractional side or managed.
While that might be true for some, the rest wont even bother due to being seat locked here for another year. LOTS of upgrades have been turned down the last few months.
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tiredcfi View Post
While that might be true for some, the rest wont even bother due to being seat locked here for another year. LOTS of upgrades have been turned down the last few months.
Seems Harry is doing real number on morale and longevity.
His "savings" will be hugely outweighed by training costs when people leave due to him.

Sad when one guy can have such a negative effect on a great company and group of pilots.
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tiredcfi View Post
While that might be true for some, the rest wont even bother due to being seat locked here for another year. LOTS of upgrades have been turned down the last few months.
Just to clarify something, you are saying SICs are not bidding on SIC slots on bigger equipment because of the lock?
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Old 03-01-2015, 09:02 AM
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Just to clarify something, you are saying SICs are not bidding on SIC slots on bigger equipment because of the lock?
More along the lines of PICs turning down higher paying PIC seats due to not wanting to lock in for another year (i.e. they want to hold out for the 300, just don't want to fly the 100, or want the flexibility of no seat lock). SIC to SIC lateral moves here are pretty much non-existant.
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Old 03-01-2015, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tiredcfi View Post
More along the lines of PICs turning down higher paying PIC seats due to not wanting to lock in for another year (i.e. they want to hold out for the 300, just don't want to fly the 100, or want the flexibility of no seat lock). SIC to SIC lateral moves here are pretty much non-existant.
Ok. So KA PICs not trying for a Phenom 100 PIC slots because they want a 300 or CJ2 position?

But is that strange? From the cheap seats, I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:19 AM
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Ok. So KA PICs not trying for a Phenom 100 PIC slots because they want a 300 or CJ2 position?

But is that strange? From the cheap seats, I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
In FTW, I would say that's the norm, but its also happening in other places with less turnover. Everyone is here for different reasons and everyone's situation is different. However, the consensus seems to be get your time and keep your options open for a speedy exit. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good opportunities here that don't exist at other shops. There is a lot of movement overall and that movement is here for a reason.
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