Executive Airshare
#2241
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
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For all those wondering what is going on around Airshare, this post should offer some clarity. In April the management team went to every base to talk to the pilot group about suggestions on how to make Airshare more appealing for pilot QOL. Many items were discussed with Pay and Schedule being the hottest topics. The first response we heard regarding the schedule and pay decision was in July. That email set a deadline for management to make a decision and inform us of their decision no later than September 1st. On August 31st an email was sent to the pilot group indicating a decision had not yet been made. We were given a new deadline that guaranteed a decision by Sept 29th. The decision was released yesterday and only addressed schedule. There was no indication that pay would be addressed too.
The new schedule is as follows:
8 on 6 off for Captains that have been here 3 or more years and goes into effect next year. Captains with more than 5 years of service will start the 8/6 in January, 4 year captains start in March, and 3 years captains start in May. As a result of this new schedule, the PTB structure for captains on the 8/6 schedule also changed. Captains with 3-5 years of service accrue 8 days a year, Captains between 5-8 years of service accrue 16 PTB days a year, and Captains with more than 8 years of service accrue 20 days off a year.
Captains with less than 3 years of service and all SICs will remain on the 10/5 schedule.
I am making this post so anyone considering this company can have the most information at hand before making the jump.
The new schedule is as follows:
8 on 6 off for Captains that have been here 3 or more years and goes into effect next year. Captains with more than 5 years of service will start the 8/6 in January, 4 year captains start in March, and 3 years captains start in May. As a result of this new schedule, the PTB structure for captains on the 8/6 schedule also changed. Captains with 3-5 years of service accrue 8 days a year, Captains between 5-8 years of service accrue 16 PTB days a year, and Captains with more than 8 years of service accrue 20 days off a year.
Captains with less than 3 years of service and all SICs will remain on the 10/5 schedule.
I am making this post so anyone considering this company can have the most information at hand before making the jump.
More appealing, eh? Ok. This is going to entice people to apply and not go 121? I still can’t believe they have people flying Lears for King Air pay.
#2242
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: The Dark Side
Posts: 99
#2243
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: EMB505 PIC
Posts: 20
Falling into the group that will benefit from the 8-6, I think this is definitely a step in the right direction. Not long ago we were all on the 12-3 schedule. The 12-3 was tough on me and the family, but when the 10-5 came along that was a huge improvement. The company doesn't do anything fast but getting some 30+ (I think it said 35) extra days off a year is a damn good start. I plan to use the 6 days off to catch up even more at home. Curious to see how the 8-6 rotations line up with the rest of the year.
#2244
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 16
I think you need to read the memo again as your statement is not correct. PICs under 3 years would still be on the 10-5 and it clearly says those on the 10-5 will have the same accrual rates, meaning it's not changed. Not sure how you reached your conclusion.
Falling into the group that will benefit from the 8-6, I think this is definitely a step in the right direction. Not long ago we were all on the 12-3 schedule. The 12-3 was tough on me and the family, but when the 10-5 came along that was a huge improvement. The company doesn't do anything fast but getting some 30+ (I think it said 35) extra days off a year is a damn good start. I plan to use the 6 days off to catch up even more at home. Curious to see how the 8-6 rotations line up with the rest of the year.
Falling into the group that will benefit from the 8-6, I think this is definitely a step in the right direction. Not long ago we were all on the 12-3 schedule. The 12-3 was tough on me and the family, but when the 10-5 came along that was a huge improvement. The company doesn't do anything fast but getting some 30+ (I think it said 35) extra days off a year is a damn good start. I plan to use the 6 days off to catch up even more at home. Curious to see how the 8-6 rotations line up with the rest of the year.
#2245
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 1
I think you need to read the memo again as your statement is not correct. PICs under 3 years would still be on the 10-5 and it clearly says those on the 10-5 will have the same accrual rates, meaning it's not changed. Not sure how you reached your conclusion.
Falling into the group that will benefit from the 8-6, I think this is definitely a step in the right direction. Not long ago we were all on the 12-3 schedule. The 12-3 was tough on me and the family, but when the 10-5 came along that was a huge improvement. The company doesn't do anything fast but getting some 30+ (I think it said 35) extra days off a year is a damn good start. I plan to use the 6 days off to catch up even more at home. Curious to see how the 8-6 rotations line up with the rest of the year.
Falling into the group that will benefit from the 8-6, I think this is definitely a step in the right direction. Not long ago we were all on the 12-3 schedule. The 12-3 was tough on me and the family, but when the 10-5 came along that was a huge improvement. The company doesn't do anything fast but getting some 30+ (I think it said 35) extra days off a year is a damn good start. I plan to use the 6 days off to catch up even more at home. Curious to see how the 8-6 rotations line up with the rest of the year.
To those of you on here looking for the real scoop on this place, don’t waste your time. Many of us have spent year after year watching them lie to us saying they’ll make things better. Leading up to this they had meeting after meeting asking the pilot group for recommendations on how to make it better and attract new hires. What they took away from all that was “oh you all want a better schedule? Here’s one on paper but all your vacation is GONE.” Forget pay, benefits, etc. deal with it until you decide to quit. Sound like a place you wanna work when everyone else is hiring?
There are pilots here who genuinely believed something good would come out of the meetings who said “give them a chance.” Now they are irate and ready to quit. There is no way anyone is getting on APC and defending this new policy. Goes to show you how low mgnt will go to create a fake account and try and spread their propaganda on a public message board.
I’m sure any other company would gladly take the great pilots at Airshare, and that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
#2248
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: The Dark Side
Posts: 99
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