ReserveCA

My strike fund is growing.....
Not that I’ll ever be allowed to use it!

Wheelswatch

I'm assuming you're making a bad joke? If we don't have more faith in ourselves than this, then we've already lost. No way in hell their current offer would pass.

ColdWhiskey

I don't want anything to vote on unless it is a very respectable TA. If it turns out to be true that not much progress was made at the last mediated session, I hope that March is our cooling off period.

DrJekyll MrHyde

Politics, ladies and gents. If you’re looking at this any other way, you’re fooling yourself. There is no logical timeline for politics, so don’t expect any concrete information from the next MEC update.

Our maintenance procedures are starting to become questionable. The latest Maintenance ASAP report (publication) essentially is a reminder/threat of the consequences for mechanics that are signing off work that they have not performed.

Follow FOM VOL I & VOL II to your best ability. That includes holding others accountable for doing their jobs, especially if it is related to safety. If something is broken, don’t hesitate to write it up. Don’t risk your certificate. These management bozos have caused so much turmoil in every facet of our operation that it will be the cause of the next melt-down. And no one will lend a hand to help on their days-off. No illegal work action needed, just show up to work on your scheduled days on and do your job, nothing more and nothing less. At least it should help the time pass.

Aero1900

It was a joke, but it wasn't that bad of a joke...

OpenClimb

I agree. Look at the Spirit vote. They’re making a HUGE concession with PBS and are still $30/hr short of industry standard pay AND falling short on the 401k AND giving up some screwball provision that effectively turns even lineholders into airport ready reserves...

AND I bet their TA passes by at least 80/20.

Never underestimate the shortsightedness of a pilot group.

I expect the same general outcome here at Frontier. A sup-par TA followed by heavy rationalization and an ALPA sales job leading to passage of an industry trailing 5 year contract that will once-again be followed by 3 or more years of negotiations leading to another industry-trailing CBA. Rinse and repeat.

For the inevitable “why don’t you just quit?” retort. Believe me: I consider it almost every day I leave work. The truth is that at my age, I’m stuck at F9 if I’m going to continue life as a 121 pilot. The truth is that I frequently consider selling most everything I own so I can abandon this ongoing dumpster fire and make ends meet as a worker bee at Home Depot. It may happen at some point. In more than 30 years worth of jobs, I’ve never been so disgusted with a job and dreaded going to work more than this period of my life.

Mugatu

If zero progress, that’s good for the two new board members to see. Now they can see first hand our management (not) in the works.

Southerndog

I agree 100%. As long as indigo owns us NOTHING will change! This will be my last contract at F9 because they will drag their feet for another year and then after 5 years we will begin negotiating the next contract for2-4 years. If you have less then 5 years at Frontier you should leave immediately. If you are in the top 400 you are tied to the anchor of this rusty old ship, and will ride it down to the bottom depths of the sea.

Aviation is all about timing and a seniority number, nows the best time to leave, you will thank me later...

NWSteeringArmer

I have the lowest expectations of this management group possible... I have the lowest expectations of the NMB possible... even I think there will be something to vote on by year’s end... they want 25 people per class times 2 classes a month starting this summer... they’re not gonna get 12 people the whole month if something doesn’t change... they want to make money... they need asses in classes... SOMETHING has to change

madmax757

Well put - I have heard we now have a 30 percent washout rate ? heard this from a check airman the other day . Is this real ?