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Old 02-10-2022, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by foreverreserve View Post
How long is it currently taking new hires to get LAS?
Two new hires in the 1/31 class were awarded LAS right out of the gate. It looks like August ‘21 hires are the next most junior.
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Old 02-10-2022, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Two new hires in the 1/31 class were awarded LAS right out of the gate. It looks like 8/21 hires are the next most junior.
NK guys have been getting it right out of the gate too. At worst after OE.
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:04 AM
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Some will stay. Most will leave unless the contract is on par with the legacies. Most of the people coming from the cadet programs are very young. To stay at a ULCC under current contracts vs going to a legacy will cost them MILLIONS over their career. Not to mention the total lack of operational support relative to the legacies. Why would anyone do that?
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:33 AM
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What about being awarded DEN right out of the gate? Heard DEN is junior for FOs; is this correct?
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotboy10 View Post
What about being awarded DEN right out of the gate? Heard DEN is junior for FOs; is this correct?
Junior? No. Able to hold right away? Very possibly. Any new hire should be able to get any base they want in short order. How quickly they’ll move up the list, hold a line, etc. is a different story.
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Junior? No. Able to hold right away? Very possibly. Any new hire should be able to get any base they want in short order. How quickly they’ll move up the list, hold a line, etc. is a different story.
Thanks. I'm local in DEN so I really don't care how long I sit on reserve. Just want to get base where I live. I have had the experience of commuting to a Regional job. Never again.
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotboy10 View Post
Thanks. I'm local in DEN so I really don't care how long I sit on reserve. Just want to get base where I live. I have had the experience of commuting to a Regional job. Never again.
You bet. I looked at the seniority list. Most Junior DEN FO is a July ‘21 hire. So, it wasn’t too long out of training for them to hold it.
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Old 02-10-2022, 10:21 AM
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I do agree with that and this is why we need to make sure we all are on the same page and sink this merger ship with no votes until the contract and pay rates ensure that many will stay. This merger could very well put the combined company on a track to become the next Southwest in the future. The only way that will happen though is if new pilots can see it as another Southwest. The only way for that to happen is $$$.
Agreed, I’m passing up my offer at a legacy because I look forward more to what these combined pilot groups can achieve than taking the gamble at a legacy.
I have full faith and confidence that together we can achieve a contract comparable to the big 4.
I wish I could give my offers to someone who wants them. I was planning on typing my two weeks notice this week, what timing.
Leverage is strongly on our side, and these two groups are solid as they come and thirsty.
Let’s make it happen.
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Old 02-10-2022, 12:19 PM
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Hello everyone. I have a few questions about F9 that I’m wondering if anyone could answer.

1) is a hotel provided for training, as well as min guarantee pay?
2) what is the average age of the pilot group?
3) I have heard F9 was doing a lot of day trips, will that hold true after the merger? Is there any info on that. I’ll be a commuter so I do NOT want many day trips
4) anything else I should know or be aware of before accepting a class date? I understand this is subjective, but I know little about the company as of now. Is it somewhere you’d recommend for someone who has 35+ years left to fly?
5) also how many retirements does F9 anticipate over the next decade?
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Old 02-10-2022, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
Hello everyone. I have a few questions about F9 that I’m wondering if anyone could answer.

1) is a hotel provided for training, as well as min guarantee pay?
2) what is the average age of the pilot group?
3) I have heard F9 was doing a lot of day trips, will that hold true after the merger? Is there any info on that. I’ll be a commuter so I do NOT want many day trips
4) anything else I should know or be aware of before accepting a class date? I understand this is subjective, but I know little about the company as of now. Is it somewhere you’d recommend for someone who has 35+ years left to fly?
5) also how many retirements does F9 anticipate over the next decade?

1) No/Yes 75 hour guarantee

2/5) Young…I don’t have specifics. Not much. Our seniority growth depends almost exclusively on airline growth and attrition which just probably slowed down.

3) It’s true. It’s base dependent and a quick scan through the threads has it laid out per base. My thought for you is plan for the worst and hope for the best in that regard.

4)There is a lot in the air and nothing is guaranteed but the future got extremely bright this week. We just don’t exactly know what that will look like.
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