[QUOTE=Hedley;3878670]Not necessarily. You maintain your respective contracts until after the JCBA is completed. Once the JCBA is agreed to, both sides are then paid according to the new contract. When the SLI is subsequently completed, the two groups can begin to play together.

In the case of the UAL/CAL merger, it was announced in 2010, JCBA completed in 2012, and the SLI finalized in 2013.[/

You are incorrect. They will have to so there is no growth on the lower paid airline over the one that is paid more. It’s called leveling up. Everything else is correct. I have been through one. As far as seniority. You can most likely expect relative seniority +or- 1 percent.

 

[QUOTE=Flyhigh44;3878731]I'll have to go back to read some of the merger language in our contract. I know there's some stuff in there to prevent "whipsaw" where the company can use two pilot groups against eachother but I don't know about a requirement for them to match pay. I guess I'll be reading that tomorrow in cruise.

 

Spirit is NOT going to happen....... how long do we "realistically" wait to ask to be released......

we all know the company will never come to the table with any intention of any agreement.

 

Just stirring the pot with no information

 

I misinterpreted what was meant by "leveling up" and I don't know the language of these two contracts. The good deal for you guys if a merger is ever announced is that you both fly the same plane. Mixed fleet types add fences and all kinds of complexities that add time to negotiations.

In the CAL/UAL case it turns out that wasn't applicable. CAL was hiring and had a slightly higher paying contract while UAL had people on furlough. Once the merger was announced, CAL didn't want to hire off the street with UAL pilots on furlough but couldn't legally recall pilots on another list at that point. The two unions worked out an agreement where furloughed pilots could be "hired" by CAL, they started at the bottom of the list but weren't probationary pilots and were started out at their pay longevity at the time of their furlough. It was a voluntary program and when the SLI came out everyone moved to their appropriate slot. Not really relevant to this potential deal, but it's just an interesting piece of airline history.

 

[QUOTE=Flyhigh44;3878731]There is no legal requirement (RLA) for a "level up". Could the company offer to do so, sure. Will Indigo voluntarily offer to increase pay. No. Regarding IMSL, it will not be relative seniority +/-1%. One airline entity is marginally profitable, hiring new hires monthly and has zero long term debt other than aircraft orders. The other was running -30% net margins, is currently operating under bankruptcy protections, still has over $3 billion in long term debt, has sold every airplane that had equity to pay operating expenses, and is furloughing/downgrading. The only two similiar qualities shared by NK and F9 is we both fly airbus and we both suck at virtually every operational and qol metric. Its the equivalent of two porta-potty cleaning companies merging...we may merge and the result will be a bigger organization, but every day at work will still be a complete sh1tshow, literally.

 

enlighten us all oh wise one 🫣

 

Not really impressed with the strike lanyard.....
isnt't the idea to grab attention?
why not fluorescent green with blood red lettering? Afraid to tick mgmnt off?

 

Lastly....
indigo is a holding company. They just happen to fly airplanes. Their whole livelihood is based on a spreadsheet, keeping it in the black. Why would they undergo a purchase of a larger company whose spreadsheet is completely in the red with no hopes of getting above board? where are they going to cut costs flight crew? cabin crew
? gate agents ? ramp crew? they're already running so short as it is above and below wing.

 

I agree with your statement that Indigo is a spreadsheet company. I think it depends how cheap they can get them for. If their "financial stakeholders" said no to last weeks offer, it'll I'd be interesting to know where it goes next. Speculation about February. Speculation about BK first.

My guess is you'll hear something soon, or something not soon.

Just my opinion. I don't see them breaking the bank to do it.