How long for a contract?
06-14-2025 | 06:36 AM
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06-14-2025 | 07:47 AM
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This is silly. Management complies with 98% of the language. They comply with pier diem, vac credit, unstacking limits, alv windows, moving expenses, scope protections, all leave of absences, sick accrual/pay. It goes on and on. There’s probably less than 10 actual language violations that are driving all the disputes. The contract is the only reason they do that. Go try corporate 135 when you hit 65.
We have the highest grievance total in 121 and it's not close. 1,671 as of March. Reason is that the company often violates the contract in specific areas - namely scheduling, hotel rooms, PBS, etc. You mention 98% while everyone else is 99.9%.
If we're comparing airline companies by manner in which they comply w/ the contract, F9 would be at the bottom of that list.
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06-14-2025 | 07:58 AM
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So far, the NC AND mediator are doing exactly what they are supposed to wrt negotiations. The company is slow-rolling but complying as well. Negotiations are happening - despite their nature as being not really valid.
A strike is still quite aways away and you're already complainin...
06-14-2025 | 10:23 AM
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You are correct, yet this is misleading w/o context. No one is arguing if we're paid on time or the correct rate or sick pay or those other wrote actions that every airline in America gets (including regionals). Does Skywest have a problem paying the correct per diem? Does anyone? No one is bringing up 135 - none of us work there.
We have the highest grievance total in 121 and it's not close. 1,671 as of March. Reason is that the company often violates the contract in specific areas - namely scheduling, hotel rooms, PBS, etc. You mention 98% while everyone else is 99.9%.
If we're comparing airline companies by manner in which they comply w/ the contract, F9 would be at the bottom of that list.
We have the highest grievance total in 121 and it's not close. 1,671 as of March. Reason is that the company often violates the contract in specific areas - namely scheduling, hotel rooms, PBS, etc. You mention 98% while everyone else is 99.9%.
If we're comparing airline companies by manner in which they comply w/ the contract, F9 would be at the bottom of that list.
06-14-2025 | 10:33 AM
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Why are you so scared to strike? NK did it. Why won't you?
So far, the NC AND mediator are doing exactly what they are supposed to wrt negotiations. The company is slow-rolling but complying as well. Negotiations are happening - despite their nature as being not really valid.
A strike is still quite aways away and you're already complainin...
So far, the NC AND mediator are doing exactly what they are supposed to wrt negotiations. The company is slow-rolling but complying as well. Negotiations are happening - despite their nature as being not really valid.
A strike is still quite aways away and you're already complainin...
Where exactly did he say he’s afraid to strike? I’m not sure what’s wrong with your brain but something definitely is.
06-14-2025 | 12:39 PM
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06-14-2025 | 01:58 PM
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smh
06-14-2025 | 02:02 PM
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It’s misleading in your mind because you because missed the point. Nobody has a problem paying what they're supposed to because there’s a contract. 135 or any flying job without one not so much. That’s the point. Res captain mentioned contract language is pointless.
And NOBODY mentioned RES CA contract language....
06-14-2025 | 02:25 PM
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LOL - F9 mgt isn't that bad and happens to adhere to 98% of the contract language means we should ignore the fact that the 98% should be 100% - and that 2% difference amounts to the worst contractual adherence of in 121. And, anyone who mentions this should be happy they're not flying 135 or corporate?
And NOBODY mentioned RES CA contract language....
And NOBODY mentioned RES CA contract language....
Res captain mentioned provisions don’t matter much because the RLA is pro management. End of thought. I then pointed out to him that even with our current management they adhere to the majority of our contract which is a disagreement with his position. End of thought. I then pointed out to him jobs with no agreements are substantially worse because of no agreement. End of thought. You then jumped in with a bunch of leaps and conspiracies. I’m out on anymore responses to you. Arguing with crazy is pointless.
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