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01-08-2026 | 11:43 AM

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fcoolaiddrinker

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Originally Posted by spooldup

If you are on reserve and you are sick. Why would you burn a sick day for just over 4hrs of pay if you wouldn't get called, when you could just tell them you were sick if you did get called.....

In new, standard, pilot contracts, there is a thing where you can call CS, tell them you are sick, and if they need to use you, THEN they pull a sick day. If you wouldn't get used for your day, then no sick day gets used.

If you aren't fit to fly, you aren't fit to fly.

Thats not correct. There’s no sick days in other agreements. It’s credit based. Not day based. Pretty sure if you call in sick and are not available for a res period the appropriate credit is getting removed from your bank. That's why in the contract comparison it’s a defined number of credit for a res period sick call.

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01-08-2026 | 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker

Ive heard AA has something like this. Sick when called if on reserve. I don’t know the details of it however.

01-08-2026 | 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stayontarget

Ive heard AA has something like this. Sick when called if on reserve. I don’t know the details of it however.

I stand corrected. I would like to see the details but again it’s a credit based system. Might have to do with the fact res is far based? So you’re either in required rest (can’t legally be required to make a phone call) or on duty.

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01-08-2026 | 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker

I stand corrected. I would like to see the details but again it’s a credit based system.

I should have specified, I am so used to sick days, yeah credit, days whatever it is. But point is, they dont get pulled unless you would have gotten used.

I would need to find the details, but it is something we should be aiming for in next contract, along with United's voluntary standby style where you get extra credit each day for sitting at the airport for a certain amount of time on reserve.

01-08-2026 | 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spooldup

Agreed as long as it’s voluntary airport sitting.

01-08-2026 | 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugatu

If you are sick, you need to call out at the time you are no longer fit to fly,

if that happens to be 8-5-3-2-1hr or 45 min REGARDLESS of being assigned…. Call when you feel your not fit!

01-08-2026 | 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by av8nallday

I wasn’t aware… but hey I always wondered why the majority of Airline pilots are Republican because it’s really the opposite belief of being a union worker but everyone’s entitled to a belief…

That's no longer true. Being a Democrat doesn't mean anything anymore when it comes to union politics.

Biden railroaded the railroad workers in 2022 and that (among other things) caused Trump to win over union vote for 2024.

01-08-2026 | 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stayontarget

Ive heard AA has something like this. Sick when called if on reserve. I don’t know the details of it however.

At AA we have “sick if needed”. You code yourself sick via the app. You “clear sick” via the app when well. If you would have been needed for an assignment when on “sick if needed,” you’ll be notified and charged sick for the 1 day (regardless of how many days the trip assignment was). Now you’re officially “sick” and will be charged sick time for each subsequent day of reserve until you “clear sick”.

So yeah, it prevents burning sick time when on reserve by calling in sick and not even being used.

01-08-2026 | 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

I knew several guys who were NYC‑based and really gamed the system. They actually lived in Charlotte.

With a little seniority (which was easy in NYC), a good understanding of how things worked, and some foresight, they’d end up with more time at home in Charlotte doing nothing while technically being on reserve in NYC. Of course, it all depended on having enough sick days if you did get called

I haven’t spoken to them in years, but my understanding is that with the new contract reserve rules—the bucket system—they can’t get away with it nearly as much anymore.

Still a great feature to have. I wish we had something like that..
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01-12-2026 | 09:51 AM

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https://youtu.be/Ps9945w3oFI

certainly apples to oranges. But if 15,000 NYC nurses can walk out and stop working, twice in 3 years, nothing is impossible for us.