How long for a contract?
08-13-2025 | 10:40 AM
#1871
Last To Know First To Go
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Lol. My man. Look at our quarterly “earnings” release. The NMB is gonna look at the company’s revenue generating ability (or lack thereof) and laugh at the idea that F9 is somehow obligated to pay legacy rates.
I’m noticing a distinct trend of the people I fly with. People are starting to worry more about the company’s long term viability than about the contract. Reality eventually hits.
I’m noticing a distinct trend of the people I fly with. People are starting to worry more about the company’s long term viability than about the contract. Reality eventually hits.
08-13-2025 | 04:08 PM
#1873
Old Hire
Joined: Feb 2020
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From: 320 CP
08-13-2025 | 05:37 PM
#1874
Line Holder
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From: Lineholder
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M
2025 - Q1 loss of $43M
2024 - Q4 gain of $54M
2024 - Q3 gain of $26M
2024 - Q2 gain of $31M
2024 - Q1 loss of $26M
While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand.
08-13-2025 | 07:16 PM
#1875
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So, there IS data that suggests we're consistently losing lately (unprofitable). It is no where near aggressive or would I consider it "circling the drain."
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M
2025 - Q1 loss of $43M
2024 - Q4 gain of $54M
2024 - Q3 gain of $26M
2024 - Q2 gain of $31M
2024 - Q1 loss of $26M
While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand.
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M
2025 - Q1 loss of $43M
2024 - Q4 gain of $54M
2024 - Q3 gain of $26M
2024 - Q2 gain of $31M
2024 - Q1 loss of $26M
While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand.
08-14-2025 | 02:41 AM
#1876
Almost there
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08-14-2025 | 03:37 AM
#1877
Old Hire
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 73
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From: 320 CP
08-14-2025 | 03:43 AM
#1878
Old Hire
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 73
Likes: 13
From: 320 CP
So, there IS data that suggests we're consistently losing lately (unprofitable). It is no where near aggressive or would I consider it "circling the drain."
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M
2025 - Q1 loss of $43M
2024 - Q4 gain of $54M
2024 - Q3 gain of $26M
2024 - Q2 gain of $31M
2024 - Q1 loss of $26M
While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand.
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M
2025 - Q1 loss of $43M
2024 - Q4 gain of $54M
2024 - Q3 gain of $26M
2024 - Q2 gain of $31M
2024 - Q1 loss of $26M
While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand.
08-14-2025 | 04:07 AM
#1879
Almost there
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,970
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they also said they have access to committed financing that will add 300M to their current 700M of liquidity. We’ll be sitting at 1B liquidity total by year end, with the largest ULCC in the US facing a fierce PR battle and (unfortunately) may not make it if they continue down this current path. Read a book man, touch some grass, let’s allow people who are facing worse situations to vent, we’ve got it good for now.
08-14-2025 | 04:34 AM
#1880
Line Holder
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Posts: 1,942
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From: Lineholder
they also said they have access to committed financing that will add 300M to their current 700M of liquidity. We’ll be sitting at 1B liquidity total by year end, with the largest ULCC in the US facing a fierce PR battle and (unfortunately) may not make it if they continue down this current path. Read a book man, touch some grass, let’s allow people who are facing worse situations to vent, we’ve got it good for now.
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