How long for a contract?
01-12-2026 | 12:25 PM
#2221
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certainly apples to oranges. But if 15,000 NYC nurses can walk out and stop working, twice in 3 years, nothing is impossible for us.
certainly apples to oranges. But if 15,000 NYC nurses can walk out and stop working, twice in 3 years, nothing is impossible for us.
01-13-2026 | 08:24 AM
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You dont think ALPA has been trying to get out from under the RLA since 1931? We are stuck with it. We will never get rid of that 100 year old piece of crap legislation. Our hands are forever tied and management has 99% of the cards. The only card we have is our current contract. Fly the contract and nothing more. Fly your awarded schedule. But based on how fast ca open time disappears instantly, system wide on the 13th, tells you all you need to know as to how long this contract is gunna take.
Jl on the MEC in a recurrent class said, "there are many benefits to being in the RLA," when asked why ALPA doesn't push to get out from under it.
01-13-2026 | 12:26 PM
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01-13-2026 | 05:35 PM
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Amendable vs expired.
Think of the flip side of having a good contract and the economy starts to slide. Contract expires and the company says “tomorrow pay is 15% lower and these work rules are gone.” This can’t happen under the RLA.
01-13-2026 | 05:42 PM
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01-13-2026 | 06:07 PM
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01-14-2026 | 11:52 AM
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Without the RLA, the Company could just waltz in and force a brand new contract on the pilot group while we’re still negotiating. I bet those tiny raises for pilots are like volcanic ash in jet engines for pilot unity.
01-14-2026 | 12:37 PM
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The source of rla pain, is the amount of time the airlines dick around with getting a new contract…and our lack of ability to force a new one through speedily. Our careers are time perishable and each day they delay is one less day earning a better wage….time limits is what’s needed
01-14-2026 | 12:37 PM
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You’re funny that you think we’d get a raise.
look all over the industry at how pay rates have stagnated.
purchasing power for 1990 on $40,000 household income. It would be almost $170,000.
pay rates haven’t increased. While costs have.
people need to go listen to “flying the line” and realize how important the RLA is.
01-14-2026 | 12:48 PM
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You’re funny that you think we’d get a raise.
look all over the industry at how pay rates have stagnated.
purchasing power for 1990 on $40,000 household income. It would be almost $170,000.
pay rates haven’t increased. While costs have.
people need to go listen to “flying the line” and realize how important the RLA is.
look all over the industry at how pay rates have stagnated.
purchasing power for 1990 on $40,000 household income. It would be almost $170,000.
pay rates haven’t increased. While costs have.
people need to go listen to “flying the line” and realize how important the RLA is.
The seniority list is also part of the problem in this case. The company knows that seniority is everything in our business so those that would have otherwise left, have not. A working groups greatest asset is the ability quit for another job. “Speak with your feet.” Most of the time that is not a realistic option under a Seniority list based system. While not technically true the reality is that many senior pilots are trapped at the company they work for.
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