Awesome. Thank you.

Edit to add: obviously I need to look through it again since it’s been 2 years…I’m over here making stuff up now.

 

It's hard to remember things from the distant past. It's OK.

 

Man... It has been 2.5 years since this thing came out... I hope we see something like this soon as a real CBA.

 

If you thought anything was going to change, check out the latest negotiations update from the company.

 

Should never be looking at those anyways....

What did they put out? Some graphs of revenue? not even profits?

Spirit is literally in Ch11 right now.

Sunny is a 1 base small airline with less than 100 planes.

Allegiant has been in negotiations for the last 5 years and literally everything they have is worse than our current contract.

Company is putting out some little random pictures of logos with no actual data points to back them up.

Where does management compare their salaries and bonuses? I am sure it isn't those companies. They use Alaska and Jetblue as well.... They are just trying to paint a terrible picture and tell us we are dirt and should be paid as such. In reality, we are the backbone of this airline and they need us to do anything, we operate A321neos with 236 seats on them and should be compensated as such, just like every other airline is doing with their pay scales.

 

Agree with all. Don’t buy into company propaganda. They are just trying to pit the pilot group against each other in order to get 50.1% to vote yes on a sub-industry standard contract.

We need to stay unified and accept nothing less than industry-standard…Legacies, WN, etc.

If it’s not currently, then our CEO needs to make sure that the cost of an industry standard contract is in his plans for how much it’s going to cost to run this airline moving forward.

 

Do we think getting any of these easy sections TA'd means anything? Im thinking it means nothing other than it makes the mediator think the company is playing ball.

 

According to our union, they have been making meaningful progress over the last few sessions and in the small meetings they have outside of the NMB sessions. TAs are TAs. Usually, contracts aren't slowly done over time, but rushed and finished in a month or so.

I wasn't here for our last one, but from what I understand, it was ground to a halt, then barry came to the table and they got it done in like a week or so and had it out to vote on.

Most of the stuff stays the same roughly, just some wording changes. The biggest part is the economics of it which are debated and changed last minute. Personally, anything is better than nothing, we want a contract yesterday and the company wants one never. We will get one sometime in between those.

 

Well they were honest about one thing. We ain’t getting a contract this year. Not with this war in Iran. Gonna be a blood bath. In the Middle East and for our 10K

 

Expanding on what you said. The vast majority of releases (30-day cooling-off period) occur when only a few sections remain to be TA'd. These are the meat-and-potato sections: Pay, benefits, and retirement. While I don't like how things have played out and the company's current position, I do see this as progress.