RAH to aquire Frontier
06-22-2009, 05:22 PM
#71
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Originally Posted by Mason32
We, and our unions, really need to keep good documentation of things like this, so that when we are in arbitration and they cry poor mouth we can show them to be the liars they really are.
There is no way these companies negotiated contracts in good faith... any of them.
On the other hand, its the job of the pilots who make up the membership of their union to negotiate as hard as possible to put as much money in their pockets as they can.
You're worth what you negotiate, and not a penny more. Good luck...
06-22-2009, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by planediveguy
My guess:
F9 airbuses remain with F9 guys/girls. Doubt they will want to deal with seniority list integration and the costs of training involved.
Lynx remains the same as long as it is more profitable than replacing the T-props with Chautauqua ( as was done with YX and Skywest ) so there is a 50/50 there... scary stuff...
But you can count on 190's for F9 and Mokulele... and flown by RAH pilots on that subpar contract, until a new one is negotiated.
F9 airbuses remain with F9 guys/girls. Doubt they will want to deal with seniority list integration and the costs of training involved.
Lynx remains the same as long as it is more profitable than replacing the T-props with Chautauqua ( as was done with YX and Skywest ) so there is a 50/50 there... scary stuff...
But you can count on 190's for F9 and Mokulele... and flown by RAH pilots on that subpar contract, until a new one is negotiated.
06-22-2009, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
From the Scope section (1.D) of the CHQ 2003 pilot contract...the thing they gave up so much negotiating capital in 2003 to obtain so all RAH flying would be on a single pilot list.
Career expectations will be taken into account during the inevitable arbitration though; they were when RAH and Shuttle America pilot lists were merged back in 2005.
Career expectations will be taken into account during the inevitable arbitration though; they were when RAH and Shuttle America pilot lists were merged back in 2005.
Looks like a great scope section to me. Nice job.
06-22-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
From the Scope section (1.D) of the CHQ 2003 pilot contract...the thing they gave up so much negotiating capital in 2003 to obtain so all RAH flying would be on a single pilot list.
Career expectations will be taken into account during the inevitable arbitration though; they were when RAH and Shuttle America pilot lists were merged back in 2005.
Career expectations will be taken into account during the inevitable arbitration though; they were when RAH and Shuttle America pilot lists were merged back in 2005.
06-22-2009, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Well RAH guys, now you'll have E190s AND A319/A320s on property so I think JB rates + 3% is your starting point. Anything less then JB rates is a disgrace to the industry. You OWE this to YX pilots.
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