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Old 04-05-2015, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptKrunch View Post
I am not sure if this has been covered and I know you never count aircraft till you have the first write up, but it looks like Frontier now has 89 319/320/321 on firm order. Has the company touched on what percentage of these are growth and what are replacements?
I believe that at the moment, most of the planes will be growth. Management keeps talking about 10% growth per year. I know that a few of the older 319s are going to be returned as their lease was not renewed, however they plan on keeping the majority of planes. I don't know the exact delivery schedule of the planes (obviously) but it'll take a while to get all the planes on order. Probably 8 years if it's one plane per month.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:30 AM
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We got to do something to keep up w NK's aggressive growth. With the oil so cheap right now NEOs are not going to be much more economical vs the CEOSs. Hopefully with extra 2 rows being added, the 319s will generate enough profit for the management to be satisfied with them.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dang View Post
New rumor from RGS that the new base will be MCO. Also heard that the station manager in ATL is looking for a possible crew room. That means the new base will probably be neither.
Hey dang, did they mention anything about Delta squashing our 'exclusive' deal for 8 gates with KATL? Had a jump-seater fresh out of RGS who said BB told them ATL prospects have soured, that Delta didn't take kindly to the idea, and strong-armed KATL. Said F9 couldn't even get the Atlanta airport to return a call or an email after Delta got involved. Quoted one of our top execs as saying: "Guess now we know who runs that city!"

I suppose they should have seen that coming

He was saying all indicators are now on Florida.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:39 AM
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Hey dang, did they mention anything about Delta squashing our deal for 8 gates with KATL? Had a jump-seater fresh out of RGS who said BB told them ATL prospects have soured, that Delta didn't take kindly to the idea, and strong-armed KATL. Said F9 couldn't even get the Atlanta airport to return a call or an email after Delta got involved. Quoted one of our top execs as saying: "Guess now we know who runs that city!"

I suppose they should have seen that coming

He was saying all indicators are now on Florida.
I heard the same. A guy that was just in Atlanta was talking to the station manager and they said Delta's grabbed the gates we were gunning for and effectively squashed our big future growth plans in Atlanta.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:47 AM
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I heard the same. A guy that was just in Atlanta was talking to the station manager and they said Delta's grabbed the gates we were gunning for and effectively squashed our big future growth plans in Atlanta.
This frustrates me. Ever since the word Atlanta was spoken, every pilot at this company looked at one another and asked the question: Are they crazy? I mean we're talking DELTA here! Come on boys, we're all depending on you, get your A games on!
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:05 AM
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The base will be the base. If management doesn't know where it will be by now they are well you know. Do you really think they would say Atlanta or Orlando will be are new pilot base and not have the gates and all things required lined up ahead of time? Oh crap, I forgot who I work for. We are screwed. Also, name a city that we would not be taking one of the big boys. We might as well go big and crush Delta.
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Originally Posted by terryhflyer View Post
The base will be the base. If management doesn't know where it will be by now they are well you know. Do you really think they would say Atlanta or Orlando will be are new pilot base and not have the gates and all things required lined up ahead of time? Oh crap, I forgot who I work for. We are screwed. Also, name a city that we would not be taking one of the big boys. We might as well go big and crush Delta.
Very wise you are. Not smart guessing bases it is. Opinions and rumors no place they have on message boards. Allowed only facts, no fun or speculation shall be had.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:45 PM
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I've heard they narrowed it down to 3 possible bases in the following order of likeliness
1) Marquette, Michigan
2) Brownsville, Texas
3) Charlottetown, PEI
You heard it here first
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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer View Post
I've heard they narrowed it down to 3 possible bases in the following order of likeliness
1) Marquette, Michigan
2) Brownsville, Texas
3) Charlottetown, PEI
You heard it here first
It's Mobile Alabama.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:35 PM
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Since Southwest has reduced their (AirTran) presence in ATL, and since load factors are so high out of ATL, it appears as if ATL would be the best choice. AirTran (ValueJet) had to build it from MCO, however, so that could support the MCO argument.
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