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Old 03-13-2017, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LakeshoreFlyer View Post
Yep, first year pay at F9 sucks. No doubt about it. Second year pay as an FO is roughly equal to a junior captain at a regional. The issue with NAI is not primarily that of pay, it violates the bilaterally negotiated open Skies Agreement with over 100 member countries.
The crappy pay at NAI is the trickle down effect of skirting those labor laws.
Gotcha. Glad to hear second year is much better.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:32 AM
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Second year pay at Frontier is what, ~40% below industry average? I have a hard time describing that as "much better." No offense intended.

After paying for your lodging during training and living on your $35K GROSS you won't find it relevant what junior RJ captains make. You'll care what A320 pilots make. Yes though, the jump to 67 an hour will be less of a financial burden than Frontier will have been up to that point.

After that first year beating I'd imagine grossing your 60k would start to grate on you even more while knowing that most everyone else out there is close or into 6 figures.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeffro View Post
Second year pay at Frontier is what, ~40% below industry average? I have a hard time describing that as "much better." No offense intended.

After paying for your lodging during training and living on your $35K GROSS you won't find it relevant what junior RJ captains make. You'll care what A320 pilots make. Yes though, the jump to 67 an hour will be less of a financial burden than Frontier will have been up to that point.

After that first year beating I'd imagine grossing your 60k would start to grate on you even more while knowing that most everyone else out there is close or into 6 figures.
Regional guys are filling your classes though, because the QOL is an improvement. Hopefully you get a better contract.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Flitestar View Post
Quick question,

How feasible would be to obtain MCO base right out of training?

Thx!
It's currently at least a 7+ month wait with 20+ waiting to get it in front of you if you were hired today. The last vsa had zero MCO slots, and the one before it had 5.
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:24 PM
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Junior DEN CA just went to 09/2013 DOH.
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Flitestar View Post
Thanks guys.

Last one: what's an approx take home pay for first year?
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Old 03-13-2017, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway View Post
I just got off first year pay and my w2 pay was equal to $2,240/month. I contributed 10% to my 401k, have myself, wife, & 3 kids on the high deductible health plan, put $30/check into a commuter parking account, and had an additional $25/check withheld for my HSA. My small check was around $750 take home and my big one was usually around $1,000. That was all at $37.69 so it'll be a tad more with current pay. On reserve, plan on guarantee and very little per diem.
why in hell would you make your family suffer like that... i get its a step from the regional airlines but at what cost.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway View Post
I just got off first year pay and my w2 pay was equal to $2,240/month. I contributed 10% to my 401k, have myself, wife, & 3 kids on the high deductible health plan, put $30/check into a commuter parking account, and had an additional $25/check withheld for my HSA. My small check was around $750 take home and my big one was usually around $1,000. That was all at $37.69 so it'll be a tad more with current pay. On reserve, plan on guarantee and very little per diem.
Such a depressing post. Nice job still being able to put 10% toward the 401k. You must be a personal finance wizard.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot0987 View Post
why in hell would you make your family suffer like that... i get its a step from the regional airlines but at what cost.
You just answered your own question. And someone just broke down the cost. Please, stay at your regional. Troll.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:11 PM
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You just answered your own question. And someone just broke down the cost. Please, stay at your regional. Troll.
He must have not made the cut at the interview.
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