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Old 03-14-2017 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
Picketing will achieve zero. They know you are just doing it on your day off. Until frontier guys and gals start hurting the operation nothing will happen. Have fun walking in mindless circles while they laugh at you. Bonus points if you wear the hat!
You need to grow up.
Shame on you for ridiculing a groups show of solidarity.

Btw that hat you make fun of has been worn by hundreds of people in this industry showing the same solidarity long before your time.
ALPA required it on the line at one time.

Maybe you'd be better suited at a carrier without representation.
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Old 03-14-2017 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
Picketing will achieve zero. They know you are just doing it on your day off. Until frontier guys and gals start hurting the operation nothing will happen. Have fun walking in mindless circles while they laugh at you. Bonus points if you wear the hat!
Wow.. I usually lurk, but this level of brain dead requires a response. So, you think collective actions which damage the operation are advisable, which are 100% illegal under the RLA? But, a collective action, which is 100% legal under the RLA, which can show solidarity of collective action (shows management "this is our resolve, and this is what a strike will look like"), which can be a great show for the media (which is not a good thing for a company that may want to IPO), and is probably the best UNITY building event that has ever been conceived, is just "mindless circles, achieving nothing"... were you dropped on your head? Did your mom drink heavily while pregnant? UNITY is what will achieve this contract. Pick up Flying the Line 1 and 2 if you'd like to buy a clue.
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Old 03-14-2017 | 06:49 PM
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Explain unity. Tell me how striking is better/worse than picketing.
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Old 03-14-2017 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
You need to grow up.
Shame on you for ridiculing a groups show of solidarity.

Btw that hat you make fun of has been worn by hundreds of people in this industry showing the same solidarity long before your time.
ALPA required it on the line at one time.

Maybe you'd be better suited at a carrier without representation.
You look really great wearing it. No really you do!
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Old 03-14-2017 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
Explain unity. Tell me how striking is better/worse than picketing.
As I said, "PICK UP FLYING THE LINE 1 AND 2 IF YOU'D LIKE TO BUY A CLUE"! Do you get it, or do I have to speak slower and annunciate so you understand?
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Old 03-14-2017 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1900luxuryliner
Wow.. I usually lurk, but this level of brain dead requires a response. So, you think collective actions which damage the operation are advisable, which are 100% illegal under the RLA? But, a collective action, which is 100% legal under the RLA, which can show solidarity of collective action (shows management "this is our resolve, and this is what a strike will look like"), which can be a great show for the media (which is not a good thing for a company that may want to IPO), and is probably the best UNITY building event that has ever been conceived, is just "mindless circles, achieving nothing"... were you dropped on your head? Did your mom drink heavily while pregnant? UNITY is what will achieve this contract. Pick up Flying the Line 1 and 2 if you'd like to buy a clue.
Excellent post! I've flown with a few guys that claimed picketing was a waste of time. It's incredibly important for the reasons you just listed.

Speaking of unity... how about we actually start wearing those orange lanyards? So many pilots are still wearing the Frontier, FAPA and Broncos lanyards. Perhaps reps, P2P volunteers, or even line pilots could be sent extras to hand out to those that have "just been too busy".
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Old 03-14-2017 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLI
April 19th, hopefully we have a good turn out.
JetBlue guy here curious about the deets... which city/cities on the 19th? I'm sure an ALPA comm will be forthcoming but I'm just trying to plan ahead.
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Old 03-14-2017 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 1900luxuryliner
As I said, "PICK UP FLYING THE LINE 1 AND 2 IF YOU'D LIKE TO BUY A CLUE"! Do you get it, or do I have to speak slower and annunciate so you understand?
I have both. We live in the year 2017. Tactics and strategies evolve. Horses and bayonets might have worked back then but we are fighting a new battle. Picketing is a poor use of time.
And cue the guys asking "so if picketing sucks, what should we do".
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Old 03-14-2017 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
I have both. We live in the year 2017. Tactics and strategies evolve. Horses and bayonets might have worked back then but we are fighting a new battle. Picketing is a poor use of time.
And cue the guys asking "so if picketing sucks, what should we do".
Please enlighten us. What are we supposed to do in 2017? Just complain on a message board?

For those interested from other airlines, picketing is scheduled to take place April 19th in front of the Frontier GO on Tower Road in Denver. I'm sure ALPA will be putting out more information on this soon.
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Old 03-14-2017 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
I have both. We live in the year 2017. Tactics and strategies evolve. Horses and bayonets might have worked back then but we are fighting a new battle. Picketing is a poor use of time.
And cue the guys asking "so if picketing sucks, what should we do".
You must have never read them. This is my last response, because if you understood the first thing about the history of collective bargaining in the pilot profession, you wouldn't be posting such drivel. I can tell you that 1000 pilots going 1000 different directions will achieve zero. Is that what you want? Then why are you asking about the importance of unity?
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