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Old 03-16-2017 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter
I will be working on the 19th, otherwise I would love to be there. I hope we have a great turnout and you guys enjoy wearing your hats. I also hope that those of you who are there will discuss with your fellow pilots why they continue to taxi single engine, not run the APU, not write airplanes up for any little thing they find, call ops for paperwork, call ops for jetbridge drivers, carry things that could be written up at an outstation to Denver, use their cell phones to call DISP and MX, volunteer to conduct new-hire interviews, submit photos to "Winning", pose for photos that will be submitted to "Winning", cut ribbons on inaugural flights, not fill out hotel reports, not call in fatiugued at even the vaguest of opportunities, not use a cab when the hotel shuttle is late, not grieve suspected contract violations, and, most importantly, when they CONTINUE TO PICK UP OPEN TIME.

Have I missed anything???

We should be taking lessons from the Spirit pilots -- those guys are ****ed and they are militant. We, on the other hand, just want be be put "Into the Pattern.".

What a GD joke.
And the militant Spirit guys are so effective NOBODY from management showed up to the scheduled negotiating session this week. Mediator and pilots, that's all.

We have a union for a reason. Follow their instructions.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 05:49 PM
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That has nothing to do with the fact that the management people didn't show up to the table. Certainly you don't believe that, do you???

Oh, I forgot one thing: every single pilot at this company should make it a personal goal to call in fatigued at least once a quarter, because I guarantee you that you CAN find a legitimate reason to do so at least that often. And, if it's legitimate, just like writing up mx issues, there's not a damned thing they can do about it.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
And the militant Spirit guys are so effective NOBODY from management showed up to the scheduled negotiating session this week. Mediator and pilots, that's all.

We have a union for a reason. Follow their instructions.
Unfortunately, I'm sure our management would have also used the winter storm to no-show negotiations if we had them.

Harvey makes a lot of good points. We can still be professionals while following our contract. We are acting professionally when we keep our passengers and crew safe and comfortable.

Why do we have pilots working job fairs and conducting interviews in their free time? I've heard some even travel and stay in hotels on their own dime to do this. Insane!
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Old 03-16-2017 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by harvey specter
i will be working on the 19th, otherwise i would love to be there. I hope we have a great turnout and you guys enjoy wearing your hats. I also hope that those of you who are there will discuss with your fellow pilots why they continue to taxi single engine, not run the apu, not write airplanes up for any little thing they find, call ops for paperwork, call ops for jetbridge drivers, carry things that could be written up at an outstation to denver, use their cell phones to call disp and mx, volunteer to conduct new-hire interviews, submit photos to "winning", pose for photos that will be submitted to "winning", cut ribbons on inaugural flights, not fill out hotel reports, not call in fatiugued at even the vaguest of opportunities, not use a cab when the hotel shuttle is late, not grieve suspected contract violations, and, most importantly, why they continue to pick up open time.

Have i missed anything???

We should be taking lessons from the spirit pilots -- those guys are plssed and they are militant. We, on the other hand, just want be be put "into the pattern".......what a gd joke.
i love this post!
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Old 03-16-2017 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter
I will be working on the 19th, otherwise I would love to be there. I hope we have a great turnout and you guys enjoy wearing your hats. I also hope that those of you who are there will discuss with your fellow pilots why they continue to taxi single engine, not run the APU, not write airplanes up for any little thing they find, call ops for paperwork, call ops for jetbridge drivers, carry things that could be written up at an outstation to Denver, use their cell phones to call DISP and MX, volunteer to conduct new-hire interviews, submit photos to "Winning", pose for photos that will be submitted to "Winning", cut ribbons on inaugural flights, not fill out hotel reports, not call in fatiugued at even the vaguest of opportunities, not use a cab when the hotel shuttle is late, not grieve suspected contract violations, and, most importantly, why they CONTINUE TO PICK UP OPEN TIME.

Have I missed anything???

We should be taking lessons from the Spirit pilots -- those guys are plssed and they are militant. We, on the other hand, just want be be put "Into the Pattern".......what a GD joke.
Great post and 100% spot on. I was gonna add the interview thing, but someone beat me to it. Stop helping the company people. You look like fools. And yes, your fellow pilots do notice it.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter
I will be working on the 19th, otherwise I would love to be there. I hope we have a great turnout and you guys enjoy wearing your hats. I also hope that those of you who are there will discuss with your fellow pilots why they continue to taxi single engine, not run the APU, not write airplanes up for any little thing they find, call ops for paperwork, call ops for jetbridge drivers, carry things that could be written up at an outstation to Denver, use their cell phones to call DISP and MX, volunteer to conduct new-hire interviews, submit photos to "Winning", pose for photos that will be submitted to "Winning", cut ribbons on inaugural flights, not fill out hotel reports, not call in fatiugued at even the vaguest of opportunities, not use a cab when the hotel shuttle is late, not grieve suspected contract violations, and, most importantly, why they CONTINUE TO PICK UP OPEN TIME.

Have I missed anything???

We should be taking lessons from the Spirit pilots -- those guys are plssed and they are militant. We, on the other hand, just want be be put "Into the Pattern".......what a GD joke.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wt932051
Can I picket while sitting on reserve?
That's actually a good question. I would double check with ALPA just to be sure.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wt932051
Can I picket while sitting on reserve?
Of course you can! What you do on your time being on Reserve is your business and not companies. You will be in your uniform(most likely) when picketing, so bring your suitcase and IPad and leave it in the car or FALPA office.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter
That has nothing to do with the fact that the management people didn't show up to the table. Certainly you don't believe that, do you???
No, they blamed not showing on the weather.

My point was they didn't give a **** from shine ola about their militant pilot group either. They still no showed.
Follow the process.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter
We should be taking lessons from the Spirit pilots -- those guys are plssed and they are militant. We, on the other hand, just want be be put "Into the Pattern".......what a GD joke.
You know that we had a mediator before our contract was even amendable, right? You heard that we're doing 2 weeks of negotiations each month now, right? If those two things are par for the course, please let me know. As far as I recall from other airlines' negotiations, I think we're ahead of the game.
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