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01-25-2017 | 12:25 PM

#6761

turbojet28

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Originally Posted by Amike

Are there any current F9 guys that would be willing to share what the realistic earnings for year one would be?

Min guarantee at first year rates indicates about $35k. I am curious how accurate that is (assuming training included).

I take home around $2000/month on first year pay. That is with the traditional PPO health plan with spouse and 3 kids. Just Rollin' in that cheddar...

01-25-2017 | 12:29 PM

#6762

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Originally Posted by Amike

Your numbers are accurate. And don't forget to account for several months of buying your own accomodations/rental cars/Ubers etc that will eat into your low earnings that year. I grossed about 32k year one. About 6 months on reserve and a few months of relief lines. I never picked up OT and ultimately tried to avoid flying except for the last month (needed to buy Christmas presents). I've heard of guys getting off rsv quick and making 50-60k their first year. I think that's possible but you'd have to live in base and work a lot.

01-25-2017 | 01:13 PM

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The important thing here is that we're starting a campaign to save Hugh the Manatee. That'll show them.

01-25-2017 | 01:35 PM

#6764

Amike

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Originally Posted by shreddykreuger

With current hiring projections, how long does everyone anticipate a 2017 new hire to sit on reserve in DEN or ORD?

Also, is there any legitimate hope that you guys will get a new contract with better pay rates in 2017?

Thanks for all the replies.

01-25-2017 | 01:52 PM

#6765

turbojet28

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DEN maybe 3 or 4 months. ORD maybe 9-12 months.

Question 2: Who knows?

01-25-2017 | 04:30 PM

#6766

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Originally Posted by Amike

Also, is there any legitimate hope that you guys will get a new contract with better pay rates in 2017?

Thanks for all the replies.

Not a snowballs chance in hell!

01-25-2017 | 04:37 PM

#6767

Missed Appch

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Not a snowballs chance in hell!

Agreed. I'd be shocked if it happened in 2018.

01-25-2017 | 04:47 PM

#6768

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From: Zee Airboos

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01-25-2017 | 04:50 PM

#6769

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From: Zee Airboos

New hires will not hold ORD until a new base opens up or we get some new gates. Rsv is well over a year in ORD. The last line holder in DEN is a 5/16 hire, so 8 mos to a line. MCO, I have no idea.

01-26-2017 | 01:26 PM

#6770

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From: A320 gear actuator

I think because the old 319 return rate as NEOs arrive nets out zero growth crew/airframe ratio, so we are stuck at the same 40% hire rate (or below) that F9 has always aimed for. Imho.