Bolo

That is pretty insightful! Would you even look at the TA? Brilliant Reserve Captain!

DrJekyll MrHyde

I'm not sure why a reference to a presidential administration is out of context or immature. After all, the president's admin appoints members to the NMB and the president has the authority to block a work action by our labor group. Trump fan or not, the new admin may have no effect on our self-help process or it may be the very thing that stops us dead in our tracks.

That said, maybe it's best to ignore that aspect of our self-help journey, unless we want this "Frontier Hiring" thread to turn into another political opinion forum.

ReserveCA

Refer to post 6715
Grow a pair!

Bolo

You are a DB! Go somewhere that you actually think is worthy of having you!
You know reading is actually a requirement? "My first vote will be no regardless." Very shortsighted by you don't you think?
And about growing a pair? I will wrap them around your head 3 times over.
You must be one of those new Super Captains that Puffs out his/her chest and talks a big game!

ReserveCA

Spoken like one of the kids in the sand box.....
The older I get the less accommodating I have become to being s$it on and taken advantage of....
Enough is enough.....
Again refer to post 6715

ClearCreek

Any TA gets a NO vote. It'll be a piece of **** regardless.

DENpilot

Wow. I hope this whole group isn't like you keyboard warriors. If the first TA is worthy, it will get a YES from me.

ColdWhiskey

I know there is a lot of frustration. There will be a TA someday. I am of the belief that it will be later, rather than sooner.

With that said, once there is a TA, we owe it to ourselves, our union leaders, our negotiating team, and our fellow pilots to read, evaluate, and compare the TA to our current CBA, our expectations, and the industry standard pay and work rules (which keeps increasing).

If our NC brings us a TA that meets or exceeds these metrics and expectations, our pilot group will vote in favor. If we are presented with a TA that does not meet or exceed our peers, we absolutely should vote NO.

We have been working under the current CBA or a concessionary version for 10 years. Saying that we should vote NO on principle without ever seeing, reading, or evaluating the TA is short sighted.

Also, in my opinion, the duration of any future agreement is just as important, or more so, than the agreement itself. 10 years was an asinine duration, and we should never have agreed to that, no matter what our situation was.

Bolo

ColdWhiskey, Thank you and I agree with your assessment 100%. Voting no without even reviewing the next TA is short sighted at best.

Mugatu

The company DIO because of weather in the southeast (GA, FL) and the west (CA, NV) yesterday? I was down in Florida yesterday and it moved through pretty quick. Did it mess things up in MCO that bad?