I like BIG Bus

Awesome, thanks aero for helping me prove my point. 2020 or 2022, doesn't matter, this is all speculation of amount of growth and timelines. You guys don't even have the same information. Maybe you're right maybe you're not, again it doesn't matter. Even if we double in size, that doesn't matter either, if you get hired now you will not upgrade. And in two or maybe four years stagnation! But I will put the carrot of vague opportunity that we will be bought or merged by then. Which will be a painful and arduous journey in and of itself. Sounds like a great deal. Hurry up and sign on that $23,000 dollar line ladies and gents.

Duct Mon

Can anyone tell me with some intelligence what the current "culture" of the airline is? Is it the pilot groups? Is it Indigo? Is it the current management? From what I've seen it's pretty confusing. I know and understand what it was like before BK and Republic. Besides the new ULCC business model what else?

I like BIG Bus

WWW.Frontierpilotfacts.com

Aero1900

You are right that there are no guarantees. No where in life is there a true guarantee. I'm not here promising to predict pilot careers. I did however take the time to gather the best information available and I've posted it here. I got the real lease return numbers and the real scheduled delivery information. I'm not making stuff up, I'm trying to post the most accurate information possible. You are more than free to call it speculative or whatever, that's fine. I don't care what you think and feel. I engaged you on this forum because I thought your initial post about the 18, 1 month leaves of absence was unfair. You made it sound like the damn sky was falling, or that growth is not occurring here. Frontier is growing, and the sky is not falling. If you want to be upset about something, I think you should direct your attention to how the company is dealing with contrast negotiations.

I'm sorry if you came here believing you would upgrade in 2 years and the company would double in size instantly the day after you got on the seniority list. I'm really not sure what your thinking is, other than obviously being very pessimistic.

The fleet plan has gone virtually exactly as planned for the last 2 or 3 years. When the second order for 321s was placed, the fleet plan of 120 airplanes by 2022 was stated. We are on that track. I've taken the time to dig into it and I believe that's exactly the plan. Nothing happens quickly, so don't expect to rocket up the seniority list. We still have a lot of lease returns next year, growth isn't very quick in 2018. 2019 and 2020 are much bigger growth years.

I'm not here to tow the company line, I'm just trying to provide facts. I'm the only person on this forum that has posted specific numbers on the fleet plan. I've taken the time to verify it. I don't care what you think or feel. Delta has a job fair in Atlanta later this month, feel free the check it out

sulkair

Aero, I appreciate your ongoing contribution to this forum, and hope you will continue to call it as you see it. Thanks for the research and reasonable perspective.

Stiflers Mom

I have been offered an A320 sim instructor position with one of the local MCO flight schools. They say they’re flexible with my work schedule. Has anyone worked for one of these places part time? It’s not ideal but I really need some money to pay my bills. Thanks in advance.

Bolo

Amen! I Like Big Bus is a whiner and has the "sky is falling" mentality. Nobody to blame but himself for coming to Frontier. Please leave if you feel that F9 is not up to your specifications.
Aero, very nice post and spot on!

TurboFanMan

Anybody know if there was an October new hire class that started Monday?

Blueskies67

On a side note since it’s october are we allowed to wear the pink ties for breast cancer awareness?

Leslie Chow

Vol. I, 10.6