Frontier Hiring.
09-13-2017, 08:36 PM
#8191
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,459
Originally Posted by Shrek
A lot of the responses to your post are "backhanded" compliments in a way. Phoenix is absolutely right and please take his advice to heart. Posts from this forum and others have put TROs on Spirit and UAL in the past. This is playing into the company's hands because it gives them extra time the pilots have to work under your current contract. They have bean counters that know exactly - down to the cent per day that F9 pilots cost to fly the schedule. ANYTHING that prolongs that "discount" is money in their pocket.
Do NOT be silent - make your thoughts known to your reps at LEC meetings or shoot them an email/better yet call them. But to put them here only invites management to take advantage of your emotions and convert them into bucks in their pocket.
I imagine this is your first real Section 6 and the learning curve is steep.
Keep your powder dry - let the MEC (NC) speak for you and fly your schedule. Until the NMB has released you into the cooling off period there is nothing else you can do. Find an effective and healthy outlet for the built up stress and it will help immensely.
In unity from a fellow ALPA pilot.....
Do NOT be silent - make your thoughts known to your reps at LEC meetings or shoot them an email/better yet call them. But to put them here only invites management to take advantage of your emotions and convert them into bucks in their pocket.
I imagine this is your first real Section 6 and the learning curve is steep.
Keep your powder dry - let the MEC (NC) speak for you and fly your schedule. Until the NMB has released you into the cooling off period there is nothing else you can do. Find an effective and healthy outlet for the built up stress and it will help immensely.
In unity from a fellow ALPA pilot.....
09-14-2017, 06:36 AM
#8192
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,821
Originally Posted by sulkair
I think it's pretty cool that you take the time to give insight and moral support to us Shrek. Thank you.
I'm ready for the next picket that allows other airlines to join the line
If I was just an ALPA pilot it would be because of "pattern bargaining" and general support.
But I have many close childhood friends that are among you guys. I see it firsthand the frustration and angst that the rest of the industry has moved on from bankruptcy era contracts. I have seen the former Frontier twisted and distorted into what ULCCs are today. Those friends were here and lived through the transition to "just another airline" and it was hard to watch.
As a narrowbody FO I should not be making more than Checkairman at Frontier not to mention medical, 401K and other work rules being light years ahead. I see the struggle to send their kids to college - buy houses - fund retirement - ya know life stuff. When the time comes for strike assessments I will be first in line to donate to the cause. It is long passed due that you and your entire pilot group gets a little out of what they have put into this airline.
Take care brutha.....
09-14-2017, 03:18 PM
#8193
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 298
Thanks for your support shrek, we're gonna need all of it we can get. After this last LOA 67 negotiating session, I don't know why anybody in there right mind would ever want to get hired here.
www.frontierpilotfacts.com for those who haven't seen it.
Hopefully they'll continue adding to it.
www.frontierpilotfacts.com for those who haven't seen it.
Hopefully they'll continue adding to it.
Last edited by I like BIG Bus; 09-14-2017 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Biting my tongue...
09-14-2017, 05:22 PM
#8194
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 180
Originally Posted by FlyVectorMCO
Talk about being eaten by your own ! I was making an observation based on both what I have heard and what I have seen during my time. I don't need to be attacked ! I am not and I find it offensive that I'm on the same team and I am being insulted by my colleagues . I don't work for the HQ or management or recruiting , I want what most on here want . Obviously a new 'ish guy isn't entitled to his opinion or given any credence on this forum . Yes I'm opinioned just like all you all are . Lesson learned.
09-15-2017, 09:47 PM
#8196
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 497
Originally Posted by ReserveCA
What is "good faith bargaining"........ 1.5%.......just show up ......schedule then cancel......
Hell, I'm surprised they even offered that much.
09-18-2017, 08:14 AM
#8198
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: Swing that gear
Posts: 354
Not trying to be a jerk, but don't waste your energy looking into how many are expected in an upcoming class. It will change daily and won't matter until they all walk through the door.
If your really wanting a number, their target is 17.5.
If your really wanting a number, their target is 17.5.
09-18-2017, 08:56 AM
#8199
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 605
Originally Posted by Yabadaba
Not trying to be a jerk, but don't waste your energy looking into how many are expected in an upcoming class. It will change daily and won't matter until they all walk through the door.
If your really wanting a number, their target is 17.5.
If your really wanting a number, their target is 17.5.
Easy enough.
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