For those interested in F9. What a career at F9 offers, compared to others in our peer group (United contract comparison originally posted on Spirit sub forum):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5prdjz8wuazcp6m/large-carrier-contract-comparison-2017-1st-quarter-1.pdf?dl=0

 

Pretty unbelievable, some of the stuff in there. Healthcare looks like it for sure needs to change as well as the obvious pay discrepancy. Good luck to you. I hope you get what is truly fair.

 

Actually, I did, but those things change sometimes and I was looking for current information.

 

Actually, I've read the whole thread.

 

Thank you.

 

I apologize that you have gotten rude answers from folks that actually took the time and effort to type something when they could have simply been nice and gave you the answer you were looking for.

The answer is we interview for 3 consecutive days every month that start on the second Tuesday each month. Sometime we add another random day if we need more candidates and can likewise cut a day.

We interview in the upper teens each day. Classes start every first Monday of each month as well and generally slated for about 24 new hires each class.

This being said, is the "normal" routine right now and can always change a little here and there. There could be a temporary slow down over the Summer months then back to business as usual.

 

Frontier is not a Major, it's a ULCC, a ULCC that is a year or two away from having to hire CFIs at 1500hrs which may or may not be avoidable, but unless the Frontier Pilot group holds the line and turns down any and every offer that isn't better than a Major airline's contract, you can almost certainly guarantee that 1500hr CFIs will be sitting right seat in the 'bus and Frontier will be just another stepping-stone airline by the end of the decade.

 

Yes, the only thing we have that is marginally acceptable is our vacation. Everything else is complete garbage; yet, Management claims that we currently have a "Legacy" contract that needs significant alteration in order for our pay rates to increase by even extremely modest amounts...

 

Right, so with that logic SWA is not a major either, it's an LCC.

Frontiers every bit of a major airline and has been labeled as such since 2007.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majo..._United_States

 

Man I hate to say it but the DOT can say whatever they want and that's not going to win your/our case for Frontier to be considered a Major.

Go to any pilot puppy mill in Florida or Arizona; ask the CFIs and the students there (the ones that aren't going home to Asia to sit right seat in a 'bus) what their goals are. I'm willing to bet something like 9.5 out of 10 will tell you that they want to fly for a major airline. They all say "The Majors" as if they are somehow going to fly for all of them at the same time. Ask them what "The Majors" are... they'll say:

United. Delta. American. heck even FedEx & UPS. MAYBE Southwest.

Unless mom or dad works for Frontier, you won't hear them mention the airline at all. Same with Spirit, Allegiant, Jetblue.

Now ask them why they're not willing to go to Frontier or the others and if they're polite you'll get a response like: "well, I wouldn't turn down a job there, but they don't pay very well" or "they don't have good travel benefits" or "I want to fly something bigger than an A320 someday"... etc etc etc.