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03-11-2017, 05:52 PM
#7211
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 629
Originally Posted by LakeshoreFlyer
A comment and a question.
Comment: Let's all keep in mind that hourly wage is not the end all to compensation. Some things may be pretty good (vacation trip touch and ability to downward adjust ones schedule) and some things just awful (insurance and retirement come to mind).
Question: On this forum, I hear a lot of discussion about who are our peers that we are 'going into the pattern' with. What we think doesn't matter much. What does the negotiating committee think? Do they think the peers are ULCC and LCC or do they also include Legacy carriers and cargo (Fedex and UPS) carriers?
And on a personal note, I agree with those that think it's about flying an aircraft with 230 souls on board regardless of what the company has chosen for their marketing strategy. If anything, a lower cost per available seat mile should indicate a higher profit margin which should allow the Company to pay higher wages to all employee groups across the board. It's trickle down economics in microcosm! Right? LOL
Comment: Let's all keep in mind that hourly wage is not the end all to compensation. Some things may be pretty good (vacation trip touch and ability to downward adjust ones schedule) and some things just awful (insurance and retirement come to mind).
Question: On this forum, I hear a lot of discussion about who are our peers that we are 'going into the pattern' with. What we think doesn't matter much. What does the negotiating committee think? Do they think the peers are ULCC and LCC or do they also include Legacy carriers and cargo (Fedex and UPS) carriers?
And on a personal note, I agree with those that think it's about flying an aircraft with 230 souls on board regardless of what the company has chosen for their marketing strategy. If anything, a lower cost per available seat mile should indicate a higher profit margin which should allow the Company to pay higher wages to all employee groups across the board. It's trickle down economics in microcosm! Right? LOL
I would suggest a few on here ask someone from our negotiating committee what pay they're looking at. Avg vs standard, etc..
03-11-2017, 06:52 PM
#7212
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Joined APC: May 2012
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Or you could just look at the info and graphs comparing us to the industry the union has sent out multiple times already...
Are spirit and allegiant on their? Yep. How about United, Delta, American, JetBlue, and Southwest? Yeah those are there too. Looks like they've got all US narrowbody scheduled 121 operators on the charts. No cargo airlines.
Are spirit and allegiant on their? Yep. How about United, Delta, American, JetBlue, and Southwest? Yeah those are there too. Looks like they've got all US narrowbody scheduled 121 operators on the charts. No cargo airlines.
03-11-2017, 09:30 PM
#7213
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 491
Originally Posted by LakeshoreFlyer
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Comment: Let's all keep in mind that hourly wage is not the end all to compensation. Some things may be pretty good (vacation trip touch and ability to downward adjust ones schedule) and some things just awful (insurance and retirement come to mind).
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03-13-2017, 06:52 AM
#7215
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: KCCO
Posts: 767
Originally Posted by Flitestar
Quick question,
How feasible would be to obtain MCO base right out of training?
Thx!
How feasible would be to obtain MCO base right out of training?
Thx!
03-13-2017, 07:50 AM
#7218
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 617
Originally Posted by Flitestar
Thanks guys.
Last one: what's an approx take home pay for first year?
Last one: what's an approx take home pay for first year?
03-13-2017, 08:01 AM
#7219
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Originally Posted by CantStayAway
I just got off first year pay and my w2 pay was equal to $2,240/month. I contributed 10% to my 401k, have myself, wife, & 3 kids on the high deductible health plan, put $30/check into a commuter parking account, and had an additional $25/check withheld for my HSA. My small check was around $750 take home and my big one was usually around $1,000. That was all at $37.69 so it'll be a tad more with current pay. On reserve, plan on guarantee and very little per diem.
03-13-2017, 08:12 AM
#7220
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: A320/CA
Posts: 165
Originally Posted by No Land 3
So you basically fly an Airbus for less than CRJ pay? And people complain about Norwegian?
The crappy pay at NAI is the trickle down effect of skirting those labor laws.
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