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Old 04-18-2015, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot View Post
heading the FAPA.aero job fair in LAS this wed. Looking forward to talking with the F9 folks.. anyone else going? I wasn't sure if I was that enthused about frontier, but with the uncertainty of working at a regional these days, it looks to be a good step in the right direction. The more I talk with some crews and new hires it seems that frontier is feeling the same pains as XJT has been for the past 5 years. I have a feeling those will go away and the plan Indigo has comes to fruition. Growth is a good thing... shrinkage at XJT is not so good. I would love to come work with you all for awhile.. and maybe even call Frontier home if given the opportunity.
I will be there. I'm excited for the opportunity to talk with them. I think Frontier has a lot of room to run, that's what I'm hoping anyways. I'm in a similar situation as you at Envoy. Growth and positive crews would be a refreshing change. Either way Frontier is a lot better than any starting over at any regional, even if that regional has a quick upgrade. Good luck to you!
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:11 AM
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Guys, can we please quit comparing Frontier to regionals LOL! Dang!
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Old 04-18-2015, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot View Post
heading the FAPA.aero job fair in LAS this wed. Looking forward to talking with the F9 folks.. anyone else going? I wasn't sure if I was that enthused about frontier, but with the uncertainty of working at a regional these days, it looks to be a good step in the right direction. The more I talk with some crews and new hires it seems that frontier is feeling the same pains as XJT has been for the past 5 years. I have a feeling those will go away and the plan Indigo has comes to fruition. Growth is a good thing... shrinkage at XJT is not so good. I would love to come work with you all for awhile.. and maybe even call Frontier home if given the opportunity.
I'm not going, but something to be said when the paycheck matches the paint.
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Old 04-18-2015, 05:31 PM
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I'm not going, but something to be said when the paycheck matches the paint.
my same thought..
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Old 04-19-2015, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Barley View Post
Yep you're an employee from day 1. You'll get an employee badge, placed into the CASS system, and paid 75 credit hours guarantee. Lodging is on you; however, if your sim is outside of Denver they will pay for the hotel. Year 1 is a big financial hit for a lot of folks. It's ridiculous, but you're essentially throwing the dice that their grand growth plan not only happens, but is successful AND the pay tables/retirement benefits greatly improve. Welcome to the Frontier career roulette table! Pull up a chair and double down! Actually that would be a pretty great idea for the job fairs.
Is it true they start paying you on day one? It's been a while and I can't remember where I got my info, but I had heard that they did not pay you during training.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabi View Post
Is it true they start paying you on day one? It's been a while and I can't remember where I got my info, but I had heard that they did not pay you during training.
Mesabi - the answer to your question is in the quote you provided by Barely.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:12 AM
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Frontier pays during training. 75 hours of credit starting day one.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:49 AM
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Awesome, thanks for the quick answers. Not sure where I heard they didn't pay during training but I'm very happy to find out I was wrong!
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Old 04-19-2015, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sulkair View Post
Guys, can we please quit comparing Frontier to regionals LOL! Dang!
If your before tax take home first year at min guarantee is less than $2800, I can see where a bit of comparison between F9 and a regional can be made. Guys making over 6 figures as long term regional captains with good schedules would be taking a huge financial and QOL penalty for a good couple of years.

However for an RJ FO there really should not be any comparison's made.
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Old 04-19-2015, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U View Post
If your before tax take home first year at min guarantee is less than $2800, I can see where a bit of comparison between F9 and a regional can be made. Guys making over 6 figures as long term regional captains with good schedules would be taking a huge financial and QOL penalty for a good couple of years.

However for an RJ FO there really should not be any comparison's made.
The APC pay scale for AA shows $40 an hour first year. At 71 east guarantee, that's 2840. Guess AA is just like a regional too.
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