That email from FAPA had proposed interim pay rates retroactive to 4/1/16 that seemed ok but not great... Now the company wants to delay the meeting so they can discuss other areas amongst themselves... Basically that means they'll give us the rates if we concede our vacation and basically all of our scheduling flexibility... We'll have a new contract in 4 just in time to be the lowest paid again... Super cool!!

 

Correct, but I provided the rates for our 03/01/17 snap back, which is what was asked. You are correct on our current rates however. Also the rates that our NC is asking for aren't unreasonable; appropriate I'd say, and would help attract new QUALIFIED Applicants. Management seems confused on the intent of the provision in LOA 67 however, or more accurately, are intentionally ignoring the language that states "In the event the reinstatement of pay in A.2. is effective prior to January 1, 2017, the company and FAPA agree to negotiate IN GOOD FAITH for further upward pay adjustments based on business conditions". Conditions are EXCELLENT! These are pay increase discussions completely separate from contract negotiations. The company has chosen (from what I read in NC updates, just a normal line guy here), to evaluate our proposal, and counter after evaluating some of our "soft pay credit" rules! They aren't supposed to be doing this at all; that's what the contract negotiations are for!!! The intent of this provision, from what I gather, and I could be wrong, is that the pilot group made a sacrifice, and if the company is healthy again, then they need to respect that, and compensate us accordingly! These are the rates our NC is asking for in the pay rate adjustment talks, NOT negotiations (I'm sure those will be higher)...

Retroactive to 04/01/2016

CA FO
1.) $143.00 1.) $47.67
2.) $144.25 2.) $81.79
3.) $150.77 3.) $93.32
4.) $159.25 4.) $98.57
5.) $170.20 5.) $105.36
6.) $174.02 6.) $107.72
7.) $177.36 7.) $109.78
8.) $181.44 8.) $112.32
9.) $184.68 9.) $114.32
10.) $187.94 10.) $116.34
11.) $191.26 11.) $118.39
12.) $194.64 12.) $120.48
13.) $197.66 13.) $122.35
14.) $200.67 14.) $124.21

sorry for the formatting, typed on my iPhone

 

Is MCO a junior base as of now? Thinking of switching from fractional flying to the airlines but will not commute on my my own dime or time. Thanks

 

ALL 3 bases are attainable right away, or within 1-2 months out of initial for the foreseeable future.

 

Thanks. Do i need to attend a job fair, or are people getting called by just applying online?

 

There are 450 pages of info that will answer most questions you may have.

 

If you don't have a silver bullet, a job fair is your best bet. People get called without either but it doesn't happen often.

 

okay thanks and to clarify vacation conflicts are dropped with full pay protection for any trip that touched the vacation week? also i assume your monthly minimum is 75 hrs so for monthly transition without credit protection, worst case would be you have to add a trip to bring yourself back to 75 hrs?

 

Yes to vacation. Guaranteed is 75 hours, but you can go down to 70 hours. I should correct myself, you get super seniority if a conflict drops you below 70 I think. You can drop down on your own to 50 hours I believe, but must get back up to at least 70 hours.

 

The correct answer to the vacation question is NO. We do not have trip-touching as it is known by many other carriers. Your schedule will be adjusted to remove trips that fall within your vacation period. If a day of your scheduled vacation touches a trip **that never returns to your domicile** then the trip will be dropped and will be pay protected.

A concrete example:

You are DEN based. Your vacation week covers the 5th through the 11th. There is a 4- day trip on your awarded schedule that starts on the 10th. If that trip leaves Denver and never passes through Denver again until the final leg on Day 4 (the 13th of the month), the entire trip will be dropped and you'll be pay protected for all of it. If, however, the trip passes through Denver on the 12th, you'll have to rejoin the trip.

This is a long-winded example showing that we do NOT have trip touching for vacations. We have trip-touching-unless-the-pairing-passes-through-your-domicile trip touching.