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Old 09-16-2015 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by F9 Driver
Quick upgrades - for the foreseeable future, according to the current plan.

Lots of schedule flexibility once off of reserve.

If you live in domicile and you would have to commute at United.

Those are the only legit reasons I can list, unless you are okay with monetizing good people to work with. I like the majority of my friends at United 😏and they have lots going for then. United is more of a career destination airline - unless you really like Frontier.
I appreciate the honest input. I was so impressed with the people at Frontier. The United discussion makes sense to me. I wish I could work with all of the F9 people at United. The folks at United were also very nice...it's just a LOT bigger...so not as personal.
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Old 09-16-2015 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by airlinesforfun
Yes...as of the December class...pilots will be required to sign the contract or not accept employment.
Wow, that's a drag. Is this really necessary? Have new-hires been pouring out in droves or something? Quality of candidates is going to plummet with this I bet.

Who else does this? Is it common place among majors?
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Old 09-16-2015 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Oh, absolutely no worries! I should've thrown a or two in there!

My main point was, I fully understand why there are so many (from what I read here) guys bypassing upgrades--if I lived in Denver (as the majority do) and could choose to stay a super-senior FO in-domicile, I wouldn't even consider upgrading to go to Orlando. As a commuter, I'd consider it, sure--but I seriously doubt I'd consider the (difficult for me) commute as worth the extra captain pay....

I definitely wasn't trying to express any sour grapes or regrets. When I get asked "How was Frontier?" (which is just about 100% of the time whenever the conversation gets around to "So, where were you before here?"), I answer--honestly--that I have nothing bad to say about my time at F9. For career and compensation reasons, I continue to believe I made the right decision to leave--but it was FAR from a no-brainer....
No worries, I was reading you 5 X 5. I'm with you. I'm already wondering what I'll do because I so badly don't want to leave Denver and don't have a commuting bone in my body.
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Old 09-17-2015 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by airlinesforfun
It looks as though there will be a 2 year pro rated 24K contract too. Smart move on F9's part.
Meh. If an F9 pilot gets a legacy job offer it's not like that kind of money will keep them from leaving. What exactly are they trying to accomplish?

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I'm already wondering what I'll do because I so badly don't want to leave Denver and don't have a commuting bone in my body.
Come to FL. Work on your tan.
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Old 09-17-2015 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by airlinesforfun
Yes...as of the December class...pilots will be required to sign the contract or not accept employment.
They've been saying that for over two years now. This time may be different, since this is the apparently the first time they've announced a start date....

I'll stay tuned to see if it actually happens.

If/when it does happen, I'll stay tuned further to see the results when the first guy breaks it....
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Old 09-17-2015 | 07:59 AM
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They told an interview group after they were hired that a contract was being implemented.
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Old 09-17-2015 | 08:33 AM
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Frontier kinda sucks.. If I'm going to be stuck flying an Airbus for the rest of my career, I'm at least going to a place that won't pay me regional wages. I don't know how Frontier is able to recruit candidates with their low pay. Just another example of guys and girls brining the bar lower.

Do these guys have a training agreement as well? ***!!! I wonder if United or Delta or even Spirit has a training agreement..
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Old 09-17-2015 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Droolin
Frontier kinda sucks.. If I'm going to be stuck flying an Airbus for the rest of my career, I'm at least going to a place that won't pay me regional wages. I don't know how Frontier is able to recruit candidates with their low pay. Just another example of guys and girls brining the bar lower.

Do these guys have a training agreement as well? ***!!! I wonder if United or Delta or even Spirit has a training agreement..
Long time reader, but this prompted me to be a first time poster....

Droolin, you're an idiot and I'm quite sure you are doing a spectacular job of "brining" the bar lower. Every sentence in your post screams ignorance, but I'm especially loving the 'stuck in the Airbus' comment. Sounds to me like you are stuck where you are and may have a basket full of sour grapes as well!!! A.S.S.wipe #crjorerjgearthrower
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Old 09-17-2015 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by motorboatin
Long time reader, but this prompted me to be a first time poster....

Droolin, you're an idiot and I'm quite sure you are doing a spectacular job of "brining" the bar lower. Every sentence in your post screams ignorance, but I'm especially loving the 'stuck in the Airbus' comment. Sounds to me like you are stuck where you are and may have a basket full of sour grapes as well!!! A.S.S.wipe #crjorerjgearthrower
Not for long...
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Old 09-17-2015 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Droolin
Not for long...
moterboatin vs. Droolin

I see Delta just picked you up. ...you win.
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