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Old 09-16-2015, 04:07 PM
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So I have a CJO from both United and Frontier...

I think this is an easy question...but is there any reason to pick Frontier over United?

2 year upgrade time is very appealing. Almost everyone is happy at frontier...and their growth is explosive.

United is one of the big three. Longer upgrade time. More bases.

FYI...money isn't necessarily my only concern.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-16-2015, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by airlinesforfun View Post
So I have a CJO from both United and Frontier...

I think this is an easy question...but is there any reason to pick Frontier over United?

2 year upgrade time is very appealing. Almost everyone is happy at frontier...and their growth is explosive.

United is one of the big three. Longer upgrade time. More bases.

FYI...money isn't necessarily my only concern.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
It's no brainier UA is better choice NOW, however 5 years from now...one one knows. FFT guys have a long battle ahead of them, if they stay UNITED and elect a solid contact, frontier will be a great place to work at along with nice compensations package.
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Old 09-16-2015, 04:36 PM
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It looks as though there will be a 2 year pro rated 24K contract too. Smart move on F9's part.
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by airlinesforfun View Post
It looks as though there will be a 2 year pro rated 24K contract too. Smart move on F9's part.
Is that what they are saying at the company briefing on interview days?

Haven't heard that.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:02 PM
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Is that what they are saying at the company briefing on interview days?

Haven't heard that.
Yes...as of the December class...pilots will be required to sign the contract or not accept employment.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by airlinesforfun View Post
So I have a CJO from both United and Frontier...

I think this is an easy question...but is there any reason to pick Frontier over United?

2 year upgrade time is very appealing. Almost everyone is happy at frontier...and their growth is explosive.

United is one of the big three. Longer upgrade time. More bases.

FYI...money isn't necessarily my only concern.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
Quick upgrades - for the foreseeable future, according to the current plan.

Lots of schedule flexibility once off of reserve.

If you live in domicile and you would have to commute at United.

Those are the only legit reasons I can list, unless you are okay with monetizing good people to work with. I like the majority of my friends at United 😏and they have lots going for then. United is more of a career destination airline - unless you really like Frontier.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:25 PM
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Quick upgrades - for the foreseeable future, according to the current plan.

Lots of schedule flexibility once off of reserve.

If you live in domicile and you would have to commute at United.

Those are the only legit reasons I can list, unless you are okay with monetizing good people to work with. I like the majority of my friends at United 😏and they have lots going for then. United is more of a career destination airline - unless you really like Frontier.
I appreciate the honest input. I was so impressed with the people at Frontier. The United discussion makes sense to me. I wish I could work with all of the F9 people at United. The folks at United were also very nice...it's just a LOT bigger...so not as personal.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:52 PM
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Yes...as of the December class...pilots will be required to sign the contract or not accept employment.
Wow, that's a drag. Is this really necessary? Have new-hires been pouring out in droves or something? Quality of candidates is going to plummet with this I bet.

Who else does this? Is it common place among majors?
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:55 PM
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Oh, absolutely no worries! I should've thrown a or two in there!

My main point was, I fully understand why there are so many (from what I read here) guys bypassing upgrades--if I lived in Denver (as the majority do) and could choose to stay a super-senior FO in-domicile, I wouldn't even consider upgrading to go to Orlando. As a commuter, I'd consider it, sure--but I seriously doubt I'd consider the (difficult for me) commute as worth the extra captain pay....

I definitely wasn't trying to express any sour grapes or regrets. When I get asked "How was Frontier?" (which is just about 100% of the time whenever the conversation gets around to "So, where were you before here?"), I answer--honestly--that I have nothing bad to say about my time at F9. For career and compensation reasons, I continue to believe I made the right decision to leave--but it was FAR from a no-brainer....
No worries, I was reading you 5 X 5. I'm with you. I'm already wondering what I'll do because I so badly don't want to leave Denver and don't have a commuting bone in my body.
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Old 09-17-2015, 07:05 AM
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It looks as though there will be a 2 year pro rated 24K contract too. Smart move on F9's part.
Meh. If an F9 pilot gets a legacy job offer it's not like that kind of money will keep them from leaving. What exactly are they trying to accomplish?

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I'm already wondering what I'll do because I so badly don't want to leave Denver and don't have a commuting bone in my body.
Come to FL. Work on your tan.
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