NWSteeringArmer

Frontier interviews are not really hard... They really are yours to lose... I've seen people who come into interviews who know NOTHING about the company... People try to cover stuff up, aka lie... They put ridiculous entries in their logbooks... They say stupid things in the break room... The panel interview is simple... Answer the questions honestly... The technical questions are not from the nasa handbook... The SBI... Just make a logical decision like you would if it happened in a real airplane... I understand there are 3 people observing you and it's a pressure packed situation, but having an emergency in the plane is a pressure packed situation... They call you for an interview to give you a job, not to turn you away

csh405

Is it still possible to upload an updated resume to your profile/application once its already been submitted? Im having trouble figuring out how to do this, thanks.

EMBskillz

Would you characterize the Frontier interview as more or less difficult than Spirit? Why are they so picky?

sulkair

csh, this gets asked often and I don't think there is any satisfactory answer. The consensus seems to be to present your best resume at a job fair. I'm pretty sure it's the only reliable way to get an interview now.

sulkair

I'll take a stab at the last part of the question: I think most other companies' processes are designed around a set of 'objective' standards that must be met to get hired. I think Frontier's process is purposely engineered to be subjective. I think this gives the Frontier interviewers more latitude to parse through BS answers, and allows them to act on good or bad feelings (intuitions) about people to narrow in on the personalities they like, or think will fit.

Is this better for our group in the long run? I don't know. It certainly creates many inexplicable results and frustration for candidates that fail. The true test will come years from now if the Pilot Group has remained as stellar as I find it to be today.

Warning - TMI to follow:

I don't make the 'stellar' comment in a vacuum (pardon the pun) I know a good group from a bad one. At Mesa I took part in 3 distinct groups. The Erj145, a smaller, younger group with many Florida Gulf and CCair guys; the Dash 8 a super tight-nit and small bunch where we actually shared a phone list with one another, and the giant CRJ group full of old jerks.

F9's is the best and reminds me most of the Dash crowd and to a lesser extent the ERJ

EXTRA TMI warning:

Also working on two different merged railroads, the group differences were striking. The old Denver Rio Grande guys were night and day more fun to work with than Union Pacific guys. As were the Ft Worth Santa Fe crews better than Burlington Northern.

Cultural differences are VERY real!

Arty13

TMI? We're all here to get each others perspectives. I remember a few years ago, on a different forum site, offering my perspective on a particular freight operator, only to be pounced on by the self important die hards at that company. They insisted, in effect, that the perspective-seekers only wanted their perspective. Not differing perspectives. In other words, the forum police only tolerated certain perspectives. Any dissenters were shouted down and called names. Literally.
I graduated kindergarten long ago, and so feel confident offering my perspective, knowing some will disagree. The others may get the insight they were looking for. Now I hang out over here, because although intolerance exists everywhere, the concentration of intolerant people matters when a topic needs discussion.
Wow. Late night rant. Fun.

sulkair

Thanks Arty, I agree, the more the better in a place like this. As long as the point isnt lost in the wordiness. And I likes to get wordy.

Heard from a friend hired today... According to him, 10 of 22 hired! New hire class that was planned for Oct has been moved to Nov so they can focus on typing existing FOs during the month long gap. And he starts Dec 7th.

Aero1900

As Sulk said above, no new hire class in Oct as the hiring dept needs to catch up. There is an Upgrade class in October, and it will be the last one for the year.

Upgrades will resume in January or February. Newhire classes will run continuously expect for October. Class sizes will be a little smaller until the summer of 2016. Training dept said expect classes of 16, and ramp up to full speed next summer.

There is a lul in aircraft growth between now and the middle or summer of 2016, but hiring now to be prepared for a fast growth in aircraft starting then. The current plan has 122 airplanes by 2021. Upgrade classes of 8 per month all year.

Orlando will grow to 19 airplanes and about 200 pilots. The first 321s will be based in Orlando.

The LAS base is far from a guarantee. At a minimum it is well over a year away. It could also become a flight attendant only base. Currently there is a lot of flying from LAS, but it is not particularly well scheduled for a domicile. The company says they would need to rewrite the schedule to make a Vegas base work, and right now it's not happening. They also said that any Western base would take flying away from Denver for sure.

Scooter2525

Just to clarify, pilots or crews?

Jughead135

What's the latest on upgrades? Did it get as junior as some were predicting (Fall 2013 hires by the end of this year)...?