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Old 07-01-2016 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ULLI
Latest MEC update...no pay raise due to the economic conditions. That one is a head scratcher.
They want to cut our vacation.
This is going to be nasty withoutdoubt.

Happy early 4th.
This is very unfortunate. I was really hoping that our management had more integrity than this. I agree that this will reduce new hires and will also cause a lot of us to beef up our apps at the legacies. The hope for the best expect the worst mentality is now simply expect the worst! Sad!
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Old 07-01-2016 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ULLI
Latest MEC update...no pay raise due to the economic conditions. That one is a head scratcher.
They want to cut our vacation.
This is going to be nasty withoutdoubt.

Happy early 4th.
As someone who is interviewing in a few weeks, what does this mean?
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Old 07-01-2016 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
As someone who is interviewing in a few weeks, what does this mean?
The company is asking pilots to take more cuts from an already concessionary contract, saying "economic conditions" mean they can't offer increases in pay without us making concessions in other areas. The latest ALPA email more or less calls them in their bs, but it is frustrating none the less. Our negotiations are going to be a battle over the next few years at this rate.
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Old 07-01-2016 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
As someone who is interviewing in a few weeks, what does this mean?
Don't even worry about it. If you get the job offer, then you can start thinking about this sort of thing. It's just airline stuff, anyway. Frontier isn't the only company in negotiations.
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Old 07-01-2016 | 08:43 AM
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You should ask the how are they addressing the low pilot pay. Our current rates are $38 and $68 for 1st and 2nd year fo's. Allegiant's ta is $56 and $96.
Interview with your eyes wide open. We will soon be desperate for pilots. Do not sell yourself short. Ask tough questions and if they aren't willing to give you good answers say "thanks, but no thanks." There are plenty more jobs out there that are paying way more then ours.
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Old 07-01-2016 | 08:55 AM
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Right now there are frontier crews doing single engine taxis, pulling trash out of the seat backs, grabbing strollers from the ramp and greeting passengers while wearing the optional and idiotic looking hat. These people are the reason why we get treated like crap from management. These people are happy to eat **** and stay at crappy hotels and get kicked in the balls over and over. The frontier group gets exactly what it deserves.
Anyone who comes here with any other intention than to get a type and get out is a genuine fool.
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Old 07-01-2016 | 08:59 AM
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But wait we have two year upgrades.

I seriously do not understand why anyone pays $100+ for a stupid job fair ticket to work for an airline that clearly has intentions of improving employee moral.
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Old 07-01-2016 | 10:10 AM
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I think next time Nides comes to a recurrent class instead of everyone listening to the BS and arguing with him. If everyone just sat there silent or better yet take a coffee break.

You would also be surprised how many guys are still doing single-engine taxis and waiting until they get back to Denver before writing up a new maintenance issue. It's baffling
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Old 07-01-2016 | 10:57 AM
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Ahhhh, the ever grateful Denver pilot doing whatever it takes to keep his or her base. A little unity will go along way. A few sacrifices may be required to really show them you guys are serious as well. Nothing happens til you're all on the same sheet of music with each other.
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Old 07-01-2016 | 11:33 AM
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Something to keep in mind if you want work at F9. You may very well be placed in an awkward position if (when) we strike. Being on probation could be a bad deal..........
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