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07-02-2016 | 11:35 AM

#4861

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Originally Posted by tom11011

$232/hr DOS+5

Passage though is far from certain, it seems 50/50 in the forums.

I'd certainly rather be in the position of voting on an uncertain TA involving top end pay of 232/hr than getting an email that due to 'challenging economic conditions' the company wants the pilot group to take backward steps on the worst Airbus contract in the industry.

07-02-2016 | 11:46 AM

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FreshWater

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From: fu3king.airline@Furlough. DNA

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Originally Posted by tom11011

$232/hr DOS+5

Passage though is far from certain, it seems 50/50 in the forums.

I attended our unions presentation of the TA in Vegas this week. Vegas is one of our first and most senior of bases with a large cross section from either side of the seniority list. The room was packed, and judging from the positive feed back around that room, along with talking one on one with a few of our pilots since. This TA is going to pass. The internet peanut gallery is not representative of how the vote will go down.

07-02-2016 | 12:46 PM

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Current economic conditions preclude me from using my phone. Times are tough out there guys, and I'm on a fixed wireless plan!!!! Also, I'll be acars'ing MCC for ALL issues, large and small. ZERO fight crew placarding on my birds. I'm not a mechanic and I'm not gonna pretend to be one. I would suggest you follow the FOM and do the same. My burner phone is for the ho's in Vegas.

07-02-2016 | 03:28 PM

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From: A318-320 Front row, left of center

I agree 100%, no extentions for any reason, no FCP, not going to shutdown engines for any reason, if BRK rels fuel is met back to the gate. If they want to play games, then games we shall play.

07-02-2016 | 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshWater

How does the group at Allegiant feel about going to PBS?

My opinion, that's going to be a sticking point at Frontier.

07-02-2016 | 07:06 PM

#4866

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tom11011

$232/hr DOS+5

Passage though is far from certain, it seems 50/50 in the forums.

Are you kidding... 50/50 on the forums equals about an 85% passing rate. If you've been around on forums for long, there have been some TA's that have multiple threads tagged on by pilots who all claims a resounding NO, only to see the TA pass by 60%.

Content pilots don't come online and *****, they just vote yes and move on.

07-02-2016 | 07:08 PM

#4867

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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli

How does the group at Allegiant feel about going to PBS?

My opinion, that's going to be a sticking point at Frontier.

May not be a fair comparison as ALG already uses some magic black box bid system for bidding with little to no transparency so going even to PBS will provide the pilots with some sort of visibility on how their schedules are built.

It would be like if Frontier just randomly assigned you trips now, and then asked to go to PBS, you'd say yes, give me some!

07-02-2016 | 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMntAV8R

And I would also like to offer a big thank you to all who voted for the concessions over the years and especially LOA 67, that's now the crap starting point where we are negotiating from.

You think an 1113 would have gone better?