Yes, I'm a CA, w2 said 62k this past year. I'm scared about the initial paycut

 

I was scared to leave Mesa. But for the life of me I don't know why. It took a full year before I felt certain I had made the right decision. I think most of my angst came from giving up so much seniority, and the control I thought it provided me, but that was silly, because Junior at Frontier is worlds better than Senior at Mesa.

Once you get past 1st year pay, even with the pathetic Bus rates we have, you'll be where you are now financially. And F9 pay will go up and work-rules will improve IF YOU HELP US.

But obviously if you think you can do better, you might avoid an extra step by holding out. But if you're just ready to sit in front of your nose gear, and you don't mind a 2 year training contract, come on over, I think you'll be happy you did.

Besides the more battle hardened LAMA's we have here, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

 

F9Driver,
Your post of peace will no doubt drive down the tone on this thread from everyone (myself included) and was a great move on getting us focused on the task at hand. Here's to unity!
Nice flight,
Rocky

 

So, if I'm reading here correctly, F9 has implemented the long-threatened but heretofore unrealized training contract...?

How does that work? I think I saw $24K/2 years, yes? Is that prorated (leave after 12 months, say, and owe $12K)? How is it enforced? Has this question even been answered yet, i.e., has anyone pressed-to-test?

 

I don't know but I heard in the June class it was not presented on day 1 of ground school. The CP came in and handed to the class on the very last day of ground school as everyone was about go home on break. IMO a horrible way to do it, what better way to prove it was now signed under duress. You have now quit your job and have been in class for over 3 weeks and now they finally hand it to you???***!

 

I ran into someone from the June class who said they didn't have to sign on at all, for what it's worth.

 

June class got it sprung on them the last day of ground school. Everyone was getting ready to go catch flights home and had to listen to the CP tell them how great Frontier is as they read over and signed the contract.

 

So f#cked up and classless.

 

Fascinating, United huh? Maybe someone can get the actual story about the Frontier, United merger of 86. I figure the only reason ALPA made it on to the property was that pretty much all of the old crews are long gone. But there's a lot of us who would cross any United picket line with no hesitation. I know it was a long time ago but a lot of us feel the United MEC purposely derailed the merger attempt by demanding an unacceptable pay package. One lesson we took away was that ALPA will always follow the money, ie; the airline with the most revenue.

 

Wrong Frontier. You're thinking of the original Frontier that was aquired by people express.