Frontier Hiring.
#4951
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We waited 50 minutes for our gate in Denver last night, along with several other planes. Our numbers have to be awful.
I don't see us getting to an actual strike. The company has tons of airplanes coming over the next several years and needs to hire hundreds each year just to fill those seats, let alone any attrition. Why would anyone want to come work here when EVERY OTHER AIRLINE HIRING WILL PAY AT LEAST 40% MORE? Especially if we're making no headway in negotiations.
When there's a class of 20 and only 5 show up the company will be forced to do something.
I don't see us getting to an actual strike. The company has tons of airplanes coming over the next several years and needs to hire hundreds each year just to fill those seats, let alone any attrition. Why would anyone want to come work here when EVERY OTHER AIRLINE HIRING WILL PAY AT LEAST 40% MORE? Especially if we're making no headway in negotiations.
When there's a class of 20 and only 5 show up the company will be forced to do something.
The rest is a game. To their dentriment they're not a get out in front of it management team. You would think they would be after being served a strike previously.
They will only cost themselves more in the long run. Three months ago if they had offered B6 pay I bet the group would have approved and moved on, 160 to 208 is a healthy raise.
Now, it's nothing less than Allegiant, next Spirit and JetBlue will have contracts. Then the stakes will be higher and it will cost this management team more.
Until then it's just a game guys. Let the union fill the right squares so we can strike, be prepared to strike.
Until then do the best you can at your job.
#4952
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
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It won't come down to people not showing up for class; I think there will be a steady flow. I joined last summer because my regional was dying, so I'd be a hypocrite if I then said that people shouldn't come here for lackluster pay.
What I DO think could be a factor is pilot attrition. As all airlines keep hurting for pilots, and frontier continuing to hold out on pay, I think you'll see greater and greater attrition. The training department can only handle X amount of people in the training center/sims. With plans of growth, the need to hire and upgrade, just a small increase in attrition could be catastrophic. Heck, the big 3 could tank F9 by taking just a few more pilots per month. They may need to "incentivize" people staying here. I'll gladly vote with my feet.
But what do I know, I'm just a dumb pilot.
What I DO think could be a factor is pilot attrition. As all airlines keep hurting for pilots, and frontier continuing to hold out on pay, I think you'll see greater and greater attrition. The training department can only handle X amount of people in the training center/sims. With plans of growth, the need to hire and upgrade, just a small increase in attrition could be catastrophic. Heck, the big 3 could tank F9 by taking just a few more pilots per month. They may need to "incentivize" people staying here. I'll gladly vote with my feet.
But what do I know, I'm just a dumb pilot.
#4954
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Position: E145 FO
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Sounds like the doors are opening. I would love to move to Denver. Do job fairs help a lot for Frontier? Thanks.
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#4956
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#4957
That won't happen. This is not new. The age old adage of people won't come to class is a false narrative. They'll come.
The rest is a game. To their dentriment they're not a get out in front of it management team. You would think they would be after being served a strike previously.
They will only cost themselves more in the long run. Three months ago if they had offered B6 pay I bet the group would have approved and moved on, 160 to 208 is a healthy raise.
Now, it's nothing less than Allegiant, next Spirit and JetBlue will have contracts. Then the stakes will be higher and it will cost this management team more.
Until then it's just a game guys. Let the union fill the right squares so we can strike, be prepared to strike.
Until then do the best you can at your job.
The rest is a game. To their dentriment they're not a get out in front of it management team. You would think they would be after being served a strike previously.
They will only cost themselves more in the long run. Three months ago if they had offered B6 pay I bet the group would have approved and moved on, 160 to 208 is a healthy raise.
Now, it's nothing less than Allegiant, next Spirit and JetBlue will have contracts. Then the stakes will be higher and it will cost this management team more.
Until then it's just a game guys. Let the union fill the right squares so we can strike, be prepared to strike.
Until then do the best you can at your job.
Great post. 100% on target.
#4958
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
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His take made sense to me. JB - or any airline - would want a good deal, and we would cost way too much.
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#4960
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 629
They stalled the Spirit boys right up to a strike and not one that just lasted 24 hr.
Be prepared to strike.
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