Swiss port workers get paid $2 an hour more to work Spirit flights in Denver. Once you are assigned F9 or Spirit you are locked in. Rampers are dropping like flies on the F9 side. Rumor is they will strike on monday. Can't wait! But hey, Indigo save a penny.....GO workers have to work 2 shifts a week on the ramp. Wait until the pilots get to strike

 

Wow, this is starting to look more like the original Frontier. I'm sure ALPA will do all they can to support Frontier, Just like they did in the 80's. The failed merger attempt with southwest even resembles the former attempt with United. Somebody over there had better start reading history.

 

Gotta love an Alpa bashing post to kick off a day of quiet. Nice work roundup. Brings to mind an old adage that ends "....or speak out and remove all doubt."

 

Sounds like the company cancelled the negotiating meeting today.

I'm SHOCKED!!!

Keep doing those single engine taxi boys. Barry appreciates it.

 

Get going on those strike funds boys and girls. Although there is still a LONG way to go in the the process, the union is checking the right boxes. Indigo's complete refusal to respect the RLA process only helps our case to get released. That and we no longer are an important presence in any market including DEN (distant third) gives us a good shot with the NMB. Hopefully the NC asks for mediation ASAP.

I truly believe KARMA is a b%#<€. Just look at the ramp situation in Denver. The company's greed is causing significant operational issues. Just wait until they start pointing fingers in our direction for their self inflicted chaos. Indigo makes Scrooge McDuck look like Mahatma Gandhi.

 

We waited 50 minutes for our gate in Denver last night, along with several other planes. Our numbers have to be awful.
I don't see us getting to an actual strike. The company has tons of airplanes coming over the next several years and needs to hire hundreds each year just to fill those seats, let alone any attrition. Why would anyone want to come work here when EVERY OTHER AIRLINE HIRING WILL PAY AT LEAST 40% MORE? Especially if we're making no headway in negotiations.
When there's a class of 20 and only 5 show up the company will be forced to do something.

 

That won't happen. This is not new. The age old adage of people won't come to class is a false narrative. They'll come.

The rest is a game. To their dentriment they're not a get out in front of it management team. You would think they would be after being served a strike previously.

They will only cost themselves more in the long run. Three months ago if they had offered B6 pay I bet the group would have approved and moved on, 160 to 208 is a healthy raise.
Now, it's nothing less than Allegiant, next Spirit and JetBlue will have contracts. Then the stakes will be higher and it will cost this management team more.

Until then it's just a game guys. Let the union fill the right squares so we can strike, be prepared to strike.
Until then do the best you can at your job.

 

It won't come down to people not showing up for class; I think there will be a steady flow. I joined last summer because my regional was dying, so I'd be a hypocrite if I then said that people shouldn't come here for lackluster pay.

What I DO think could be a factor is pilot attrition. As all airlines keep hurting for pilots, and frontier continuing to hold out on pay, I think you'll see greater and greater attrition. The training department can only handle X amount of people in the training center/sims. With plans of growth, the need to hire and upgrade, just a small increase in attrition could be catastrophic. Heck, the big 3 could tank F9 by taking just a few more pilots per month. They may need to "incentivize" people staying here. I'll gladly vote with my feet.

But what do I know, I'm just a dumb pilot.

 

Any idea how many people interviewed/were offered jobs today?

 

Sounds like the doors are opening. I would love to move to Denver. Do job fairs help a lot for Frontier? Thanks.

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