I'll post a few of the proposed terms. I think these folks need to be publicly shamed and I hope potential new hires will consider the company's proposal when deciding to spend hundreds of dollars on some BS job fair.

1. Eliminate all rig pay
2. Reduce minimum guarantee to 70 hours (from 75)
3. Reduce training pay to 3 hours/day (from 4)
4. 50% of reserve pilot days off are moveable by the Company
5. Eliminate ability for reserve to swap days
6. Company unilaterally picks hotels without Union input
7. Vacation pay is worth 3 hours per day
8. Max of 4 hours for a sick day instead of whatever trip is covered. (We accrue and use sick DAYS, not hours--currently accrue 1 day per month)
9. If not available to fly for the entire bid month, you'd be placed on reserve
10. No more premium pay (125%) for credits above 82 in a bid period
11. Drops/swaps buffers entirely at company's discretion
12. Eliminate contractual rest and duty limitations--Schedule to FARs
13. Eliminate monthly open time
14. Zero pay for deadheading
15. Legs paid by company-determined "segment time" instead of current block or better.

Creation of 2 different pay rates… New rate (20% higher than our current concessionary rates) for actual flight time. Our current hourly rate for all other "non-flown" credit hours. These non-flown hours would include training, vacation, sick, difference between flown hours and guarantee hours for reserves, etc.

14 year CA pay at DOS: $192.25 ($160.21 for "non-flown" credits)
14 year CA pay at 24 mos.: $224.29 *** ($160.21 for "non-flown" credits)

14 year FO pay at DOS: $15.36 ($96.13 for "non-flown" credits)
14 year FO pay at 24 mos.: $134.58 *** ($96.13 for "non-flown" credits)

*** But this 24mos. rate is dependent on the company achieving efficiency gains based on the revised work rules. If these gains are not achieved, then the $192.25 stays in effect for the life of the contract.

There are a few other little gems, but it'd take a ridiculously long post to explain them fully. In all honestly, I've already given this proposal more airtime than it deserves, but I think it's important for potential new hires to see what we're dealing with.

It's as if a group of Frontier management met at a bar Sunday night after the Bronco's game and decided to assemble the worst provisions from any contract they could find. The least drunk in the group was assigned duties as scribe and the least hungover from the group presented the amalgamation to ALPA on Monday morning.

The good news is that it should be painfully obvious to the NMB that the Company is not negotiating in good faith.

 

I like to think of myself as as even-keeled as anyone, but even I was laughing tonight.

 

I mean c'mon guys, who needs deadhead pay? We don't have to buy tickets...they're giving us a free ride on a plane, sweet!!!!!!!!!

This offer is so bizarre, all you can do is laugh

 

I'm hearing all but a couple rampers walked off the job in Denver this evening.

 

The contract proposal is simply bizarre. I have to assume it's just a stalling technique. They probably figure it'll take our negotiating team a year to fight all this BS and start the real negotiations. It seems to me that the company's goal was 1) stall the process and 2) lower our expectations and make us think that any of the little battles we win are actually battles won

The union is filing for Mediation immediately following this proposal from the company. Let's see where mediation takes us.

 

It's funny, I was afraid they were going to ask for PBS. But, instead they figured they would just cut monthly guarantee, cut deadhead pay, and cut trip rig instead. But hey, at least no PBS!

How long is it going to take until we get assigned a mediator?

 

I would assume that the company merely wanted to get some sort of response in play before the union got a mediator involved. It's a first attempt at psychological conditioning.

 

It wasn't even a slap in the face, it is an outright Sh!t on us.
On the plus side, they gave us our gateway to Mediation.

 

This proves that they have no desire to actually negotiate an actual contract with the pilot group. It is designed to elicit an emotional response from us. The operation is coming down all around them, and they are trying to push this on the pilots.

Keep those apps updated and get out as soon as you can. If you are trying to come here, Don't! You don't want any part of this Sh!t show.

 

I'm so glad they decided I wouldn't be good fit and didn't offer me a job. Turned out to be a favor.
Go get the contract you guys deserve. I'll gladly walk with you all in Denver when you strike.