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09-08-2016 | 05:11 AM
#5351
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....Meanwhile on the Spirit forum.
https://www.change.org/p/spa-mec-dem...irit-airlines?
They're petitioning to restrict their MEC from bringing any TA to a membership vote that doesn't include retro pay. Apparently SWAPA's latest AIP has set the new norm.
Maybe our negotiating committee can make a statement to management: "If we don't come to an agreement by the 2nd quarter of 2017, we'll be seeking retroactive pay from the opening date as a result of prolonged delays manifested by the company. And this negotiating position is to be inherited by any (possible) future management group."
We need to make these negotiations time-sensitive.
https://www.change.org/p/spa-mec-dem...irit-airlines?
They're petitioning to restrict their MEC from bringing any TA to a membership vote that doesn't include retro pay. Apparently SWAPA's latest AIP has set the new norm.
Maybe our negotiating committee can make a statement to management: "If we don't come to an agreement by the 2nd quarter of 2017, we'll be seeking retroactive pay from the opening date as a result of prolonged delays manifested by the company. And this negotiating position is to be inherited by any (possible) future management group."
We need to make these negotiations time-sensitive.
09-08-2016 | 05:30 AM
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....Meanwhile on the Spirit forum.
https://www.change.org/p/spa-mec-dem...irit-airlines?
They're petitioning to restrict their MEC from bringing any TA to a membership vote that doesn't include retro pay. Apparently SWAPA's latest AIP has set the new norm.
Maybe our negotiating committee can make a statement to management: "If we don't come to an agreement by the 2nd quarter of 2017, we'll be seeking retroactive pay from the opening date as a result of prolonged delays manifested by the company. And this negotiating position is to be inherited by any (possible) future management group."
We need to make these negotiations time-sensitive.
https://www.change.org/p/spa-mec-dem...irit-airlines?
They're petitioning to restrict their MEC from bringing any TA to a membership vote that doesn't include retro pay. Apparently SWAPA's latest AIP has set the new norm.
Maybe our negotiating committee can make a statement to management: "If we don't come to an agreement by the 2nd quarter of 2017, we'll be seeking retroactive pay from the opening date as a result of prolonged delays manifested by the company. And this negotiating position is to be inherited by any (possible) future management group."
We need to make these negotiations time-sensitive.
I wonder how close/above/below it is to ours.
09-08-2016 | 05:49 AM
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The majority of people I know aren't interested in voting yes on any TA that doesn't include a significant amount of retro pay. Especially considering how they've been taking advantage of us and screwing us over every single chance they get.
09-08-2016 | 05:59 AM
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09-08-2016 | 06:01 AM
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Well that's good, BUT I don't recall seeing the word "retroactive" appearing once in the lengthy (and very much appreciated) "Special Negotiations Update."
09-08-2016 | 06:29 AM
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It's veiled in secrecy but my understanding is that it's an average of SW (latest AIP), United, delta (failed TA), AA, Alaska, and virgin. That's for pay. It's proposed at a 16% DC retirement, improved scope, improved LTD, and maintaining or improved work rules (details of what that means are unknown).
09-08-2016 | 07:07 AM
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Now that you mention it, that's true. I don't even comprehend how they COULDN'T be asking for some retro. Considering LOA 67 and all...... Maybe we'll get that in arbitration. (I almost said that without laughing.)
09-08-2016 | 07:16 AM
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I assume that our NC will be asking for retro pay. There are a lot of details that were left out from that email. It was just basic bullet points.
Spirits pay proposal to the union is a 4 year deal. Top of scale FOs to make 128 at date of sign and rise to 142 by year 4.
Top of scale captains to make 200 and rise to 232 by year 4.
First year FO starts at 40.
Again, those rates are what the company is proposing. I don't know what the union has asked for.
Spirits pay proposal to the union is a 4 year deal. Top of scale FOs to make 128 at date of sign and rise to 142 by year 4.
Top of scale captains to make 200 and rise to 232 by year 4.
First year FO starts at 40.
Again, those rates are what the company is proposing. I don't know what the union has asked for.
09-08-2016 | 07:52 AM
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The problem is they are afraid you'll leave when (not if) a legacy calls. Of course you'd be absolutely foolish not to, so I guess they're making a good business decision?
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