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08-30-2016 | 02:53 PM
#5271
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From: Airbus F/O
I wouldn't start taking law advice from pilots. If you want to know if the contract is enforceable go speak with a contracting lawyer. I have heard that it would be enforceable because you get a type out of it, again. I dont' know, also, how set is management in suing you?
08-30-2016 | 06:04 PM
#5272
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From: ce560
I don't know how silver spooned but yes he is a multi millionaire. He has no need for the job just does it for fun. I have no issue with that at all good for him to be so blessed.
I do have an issue with the part that he could care less about negotiations and looking out for the pilot group.
He has his money so he could give a rats tail about the not so fortunate mortals trying to create their own fortune.
So long story short he's management's golden boy.
I do have an issue with the part that he could care less about negotiations and looking out for the pilot group.
He has his money so he could give a rats tail about the not so fortunate mortals trying to create their own fortune.
So long story short he's management's golden boy.
08-30-2016 | 06:06 PM
#5273
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Joined: Nov 2012
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From: 1900D CA
Obviously every contract and situation is different, but I will say that other airlines with training contracts have been able to enforce them. I would definitely not assume you will be able to get out of it! That's just stupid and risky. If you are lucky, you'll get out of it after paying legal fees. You might be able to set up a payment plan with low payment, but to think you'll get out of it because of precedent from past issues that are totally unrelated...
I know that good ol' Great Lakes training contract was fought all the way up to the Supreme Court of Wyoming, and the airline won. How about that for precedent.
I know that good ol' Great Lakes training contract was fought all the way up to the Supreme Court of Wyoming, and the airline won. How about that for precedent.
08-30-2016 | 06:13 PM
#5274
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From: 1900D CA
I don't know how silver spooned but yes he is a multi millionaire. He has no need for the job just does it for fun. I have no issue with that at all good for him to be so blessed.
I do have an issue with the part that he could care less about negotiations and looking out for the pilot group.
He has his money so he could give a rats tail about the not so fortunate mortals trying to create their own fortune.
So long story short he's management's golden boy.
I do have an issue with the part that he could care less about negotiations and looking out for the pilot group.
He has his money so he could give a rats tail about the not so fortunate mortals trying to create their own fortune.
So long story short he's management's golden boy.
08-30-2016 | 06:44 PM
#5275
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This contract issue will get tougher before it gets easier. Some on here are going to need help for depression.
Yeah I asked out of curiosity what you based your statement on. I was curious if an attorney told you something different than one told me. I had the contract reviewed by a law firm and was informed the contract is enforceable.
Whether they enforce it or not who knows.
08-30-2016 | 06:59 PM
#5276
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I'm not a management troll. People can say what they want I don't care. A guy comes on this board and tries to maintain an ounce of positivity and he's management. Whatever.
This contract issue will get tougher before it gets easier. Some on here are going to need help for depression.
Yeah I asked out of curiosity what you based your statement on. I was curious if an attorney told you something different than one told me. I had the contract reviewed by a law firm and was informed the contract is enforceable.
Whether they enforce it or not who knows.
This contract issue will get tougher before it gets easier. Some on here are going to need help for depression.
Yeah I asked out of curiosity what you based your statement on. I was curious if an attorney told you something different than one told me. I had the contract reviewed by a law firm and was informed the contract is enforceable.
Whether they enforce it or not who knows.
08-30-2016 | 07:00 PM
#5277
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Sounds like an awful lot of assumptions to me. I'm not here to defend him, but I think his level of involvement in negotiations is slim to none. He hasn't been present at the negotiating table once. If you want someone to blame, I recommend the VP of flight ops and our chairman
I'm sorry to say, but you are 100% wrong about JP not being at the table. Read the updates. He's been on the mgmt side at least a couple of times. I'm not quite sure I understand the chairman comment..Care to expand upon that thought?
08-30-2016 | 07:02 PM
#5278
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Bus drivers do more than you and get paid less. Be thankful for what you got. If people knew how easy it really was, you'd make way less. What gives you the right to ask for more than that? You are worth what the labor market determines you are worth.
08-30-2016 | 07:02 PM
#5279
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I am with ya, buddy! Screw these folks who think they must determine what I am comfortable working for. I am a Mesa pilot and I get a lot of **** from these people on here for that. Hopefully I can come fly the Airbus with you all. If we get contract raises, so be it. Until then, I will do my job to the best of my ability, including helping my airline be successful. Without the airline, we would not have jobs.
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