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Old 09-29-2016 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
No they moved the October class to the Airport. You get to work the ramp during flight banks and do GS at the picnic tables when not chucking bags or doing the lav service. When you're line qualified you can work the ramp while on reserve to help pro rate the training contract. It's like a work / release program.
I generally don't care for the snarky childish comments on here.....but that right there's just straight up funny! Not too far fetched after the company proposal. Hope you didn't give them any ideas.
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Old 09-29-2016 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
No they moved the October class to the Airport. You get to work the ramp during flight banks and do GS at the picnic tables when not chucking bags or doing the lav service. When you're line qualified you can work the ramp while on reserve to help pro rate the training contract. It's like a work / release program.
Literally the best thing I've read all week.
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Old 09-29-2016 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
No they moved the October class to the Airport. You get to work the ramp during flight banks and do GS at the picnic tables when not chucking bags or doing the lav service. When you're line qualified you can work the ramp while on reserve to help pro rate the training contract. It's like a work / release program.
If BB or JN reads these forums, you could bet this will be implemented immediately. All they need to do is add yet another pay rate table. It'll be the pilots working the ramp rates. Expect it to be about 12.50 an hour.
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Old 09-29-2016 | 03:30 PM
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Would someone mind decoding this as I'm a newbie....

Does this mean a new hire today would get MCO because of the openings?

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Originally Posted by MtnPeakCruiser
They just posted the latest vacancy on flica, "VSA 01-2017."

Projected Training Start Date: November 16, 2016 (Upgrade class)
Projected Effective Date: January 25, 2017 (Upgrade*)
January 1, 2017 (Base Transfers)
4 DEN CAs
3 DEN FOs
13 MCO FOs

Considerably more sluggish than expected, but I'm not too surprised.

Also:

"Projected future vacancies (projected future vacancies are subject to change without notice and not guaranteed):

Next Vacancy: Next vacancy will include both Captain Upgrades and First Officer Positions. The next upgrade class is currently projected to have a December training start and be online in February 2017. Base transfers will have a projected transfer date of February 1st 2017."
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Old 09-29-2016 | 03:55 PM
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It means there are 16 new hires. If no FOs have transfer bids in 3 new hires would go to DEN the rest would go to MCO. If there are 13 FOs senior to the new hire class that want MCO the then all new hires get DEN. I'm not sure how many junior people want MCO. But whatever doesn't get filled goes to new hires.
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Old 09-29-2016 | 04:19 PM
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Wonder if a delay getting the neo's approved is slowing everything else down the pipeline for upgrades. On second thought, it's probably the doubt that we'll have enough FO's to staff the airplanes since interview attendance is lackluster and getting worse by the day.
All this talk of growth but I only hear crickets.
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Old 09-29-2016 | 05:00 PM
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Totally off topic does anyone know if we can Jumpseat on Virgin Atlantic? I know we have zed but what about jumpseat? Also has anyone jumpseated or zed over the pond with a lap child? Thanks in advance!
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Old 09-29-2016 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AncientAliens
They've been talking about huge growth the entire 2+ years I've been here. Where is it going to come from? We can't get any more gates in ORD and our forward thinking leadership decided to let half of F9's gates in DEN fall into Delta's hands. Is there that much excess capacity in MCO?
I'm risking stating the obvious. 2 year upgrades have always been a myth. But they've also put out the aircraft delivery schedule, and net new aircraft didn't even begin on paper until now. The problem is, those net new aircraft aren't materializing due to Airbus having problems getting the NEOs out of the factory. There are probably many explanations for this, and I don't know them. But the reality is that we are way behind schedule for additional aircraft. We're so behind, in fact, that mgmt has wet leased our routes on other airlines' 737's. Until deliveries begin en masse, upgrade rates will not change, and "huge growth" will remain elusive.
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Old 09-29-2016 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Arty13
I'm risking stating the obvious. 2 year upgrades have always been a myth. But they've also put out the aircraft delivery schedule, and net new aircraft didn't even begin on paper until now. The problem is, those net new aircraft aren't materializing due to Airbus having problems getting the NEOs out of the factory. There are probably many explanations for this, and I don't know them. But the reality is that we are way behind schedule for additional aircraft. We're so behind, in fact, that mgmt has wet leased our routes on other airlines' 737's. Until deliveries begin en masse, upgrade rates will not change, and "huge growth" will remain elusive.
It's not airbus' fault... they flew a whole team to pick up the first neo and Airbus wouldn't release it because there was nothing in our maintenance manuals regarding the neo....
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Old 09-29-2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jags026
Totally off topic does anyone know if we can Jumpseat on Virgin Atlantic? I know we have zed but what about jumpseat? Also has anyone jumpseated or zed over the pond with a lap child? Thanks in advance!

No you cannot jumpseat on Virgin Atlantic! Check your reciprocal agreement list on Comply365. I do not see VA Atlantic. You are not serious about jumpseating with a lap child? ZED fare should be no problem.
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